Trump's financial and political links to Russia, Putin and Russian mob

[Ddawg]

Trump has never said Russia was good. Trump did say having a relationship with Putin would be a "wonderful thing." That is true. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. The relationship would have to be based on strength - and trust. A trust that we would kick Russia's a$$ if they interfere in U.S. interests in the Middle East, Ukraine, or anywhere else. Respect comes from a position of strength and power. Obama has zero of that. Obama is spineless and Putin has ZERO respect for the arrogant Child King.

I will state for the record - Putin is a great leader. He's been kicking Obama's a$$ at every turn for 8 years. Putin has Russia's interest 100% front and center. Obama and Hillary do NOT. Their concern is personal power, personal wealth, and advancing Dem Party power and control.

Putin is smart, conniving, wise, and always moving Russian interests forward. Nothing of the kind can be said about Obama or Hillary. They are driven by selfish-self interests and the Socialist agenda.

I guess I have a different understanding of "great leader." Putin is a bloody murderer who has no compunction killing his opponents and slaughtering his own citizens if it advances his interests. He has no compunction supporting murderous dictators too. Putin lovers claim Putin acts in the interests of Russia, but they are simply fooled. Putin acts only in the interests of Putin. It is shameful that Trump finds Putin admirable.

Putin is a great leader. He's not a "great" person. As a person, he's despicable. And yes, Putin does take care of himself - but - he ALWAYS moves Russia forward. Russia is in a much more powerful and advanced position than when Putin took over. He's increasing their influence, their power, their position, and prestige. That is a great leader.

Obama has done NOTHING to increase U.S. power, influence or prestige. Our allies think we are wussies and do not have their back (Israel) and our enemies (China, Russia, Iran, N. Korea) do not fear us anymore - not at all.

[Mars]

Putin is a great leader. He's not a "great" person. As a person, he's despicable. And yes, Putin does take care of himself - but - he ALWAYS moves Russia forward.

I would put forth that a "despicable" person, by definition, CANNOT be "a great leader", as great leaders must needs also be great EXAMPLES to their people.

He could still be a great lawyer though.

[Ddawg]

Putin is a great leader. He's not a "great" person. As a person, he's despicable. And yes, Putin does take care of himself - but - he ALWAYS moves Russia forward.

I would put forth that a "despicable" person, by definition, CANNOT be "a great leader", as great leaders must needs also be great EXAMPLES to their people.

He could still be a great lawyer though.

I understand you are being "tongue in cheek." But, a great leader does not always have to be a great person - or a good friend - or a buddy. There is the "ideal" leader. Few people measure up to the "ideal." Patton was a great leader - and definitely not a buddy or a friend.

The number 1 metric for measuring a leader is - does he fulfill the mission of the organization and move the organization forward. Mission accomplishment. Organizational function and readiness. Putin does that. He strengthens Russia, increases their power, protects Russia's interests, and increases their sphere of influence. Obama on the other hand does none of those things. Obama is a miserable failure.

[Cougarfan87]

Putin is a great leader. He's not a "great" person. As a person, he's despicable. And yes, Putin does take care of himself - but - he ALWAYS moves Russia forward.

I would put forth that a "despicable" person, by definition, CANNOT be "a great leader", as great leaders must needs also be great EXAMPLES to their people.

He could still be a great lawyer though.

Ouch.

[BoiseBYU]

Putin is a great leader. He's not a "great" person. As a person, he's despicable. And yes, Putin does take care of himself - but - he ALWAYS moves Russia forward.

I would put forth that a "despicable" person, by definition, CANNOT be "a great leader", as great leaders must needs also be great EXAMPLES to their people.

He could still be a great lawyer though.

I understand you are being "tongue in cheek." But, a great leader does not always have to be a great person - or a good friend - or a buddy. There is the "ideal" leader. Few people measure up to the "ideal." Patton was a great leader - and definitely not a buddy or a friend.

The number 1 metric for measuring a leader is - does he fulfill the mission of the organization and move the organization forward. Mission accomplishment. Organizational function and readiness. Putin does that. He strengthens Russia, increases their power, protects Russia's interests, and increases their sphere of influence. Obama on the other hand does none of those things. Obama is a miserable failure.

I disagree. Stalin will never be a "great leader" in my book. He certainly moved a murderous evil forward, as does Putin, but that is not a "great" leader. That is an all powerful demagogue. Call Putin what he is--a great murderer, or a great autocrat. A leader "leads." Putin does not lead. He murders and beats you into submission.

[BlueK]

Putin is playing strongman smoke and mirrors with his people to deflect their attention away from their miserable economy. Typical ruthless dictator garbage. There is NOTHING to admire here.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/09/vladimir ... onomy.html

[BlueK]

Putin is playing strongman smoke and mirrors with his people to deflect their attention away from their miserable economy. Typical ruthless dictator garbage. There is NOTHING to admire here. And if it weren't for Trump getting the nomination there wouldn't be a single republican even coming close to attempting to defend Trump's ridiculous comments about Putin.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/09/vladimir ... onomy.html

[Cougarfan87]

I get Ddawg's point that Putin is an effective person at advancing Russian interest. However, I disagree with the term "great" leader. A leader is one who influences people in their thoughts and actions. You don't necessarily have to be in charge of anything to be a leader. A great leader is one who influences people to be better and do great things. An effective leader is one who influences people to do what he/she wants.

So, great leader...Jesus Christ, the prophets and apostles, King Benjamin, etc.
Effective leader...Satan, Hitler, Mussolini, etc.

[BlueK]

I get Ddawg's point that Putin is an effective person at advancing Russian interest. However, I disagree with the term "great" leader. A leader is one who influences people in their thoughts and actions. You don't necessarily have to be in charge of anything to be a leader. A great leader is one who influences people to be better and do great things. An effective leader is one who influences people to do what he/she wants.

So, great leader...Jesus Christ, the prophets and apostles, King Benjamin, etc.
Effective leader...Satan, Hitler, Mussolini, etc.

But it's not even Russian interest he's advancing as his people are suffering. It's his personal interest he is advancing.

and if this isn't crazy enough for Trump, he's also made similar comments about Kim Jong Un and also expressed admiration for the way China handled Tianamen Square. For the current nominee of what was Ronald Reagan's party to talk about that ruthless crackdown on human rights in any degree of positive is just repulsive.

[Cougarfan87]

I get Ddawg's point that Putin is an effective person at advancing Russian interest. However, I disagree with the term "great" leader. A leader is one who influences people in their thoughts and actions. You don't necessarily have to be in charge of anything to be a leader. A great leader is one who influences people to be better and do great things. An effective leader is one who influences people to do what he/she wants.

So, great leader...Jesus Christ, the prophets and apostles, King Benjamin, etc.
Effective leader...Satan, Hitler, Mussolini, etc.

But it's not even Russian interest he's advancing as his people are suffering. It's his personal interest he is advancing.

and if this isn't crazy enough for Trump, he's also made similar comments about Kim Jong Un and also expressed admiration for the way China handled Tianamen Square. For the current nominee of what was Ronald Reagan's party to talk about that ruthless crackdown on human rights in any degree of positive is just repulsive.

Totally agree. It is very unwise to show any kind of admiration for dictators, no matter how effective they are at pushing their own agenda.