Help--Sourcing a "quote"
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Re: Help--Sourcing a "quote"
I could not find this quote anywhere on LDS.org.
I did find other quotes from President Benson on the topic:
President Ezra Taft Benson
“We must become involved in civic affairs. As citizens … we cannot do our duty and be idle spectators. It is vital that we follow this counsel from the Lord: ‘Honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil’” (D&C 98:10) (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 683).
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1999/02/gett ... g?lang=eng
“If we keep the commandments we’ll be good citizens,” President Ezra Taft Benson has said. “We’ll exercise our right to vote. We’ll follow the counsel which the Lord has given in the revelations regarding our obligation to seek out ‘honest men and wise men’ (D&C 98:8–10) who will stand for principle, men who will put principle ahead of political expediency.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1950, p. 148.)
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1988/08/prep ... s?lang=eng
May I urge you to seek out good, wise, and honest men for public office, and then support them with your vote. You will note the conditions wherein the Lord counseled that we should support men in political office. They ought to be “good,” “wise,” and “honest.” Some men are good and honest, but not wise. These qualities combined provide statesmanship. I’ve said it many times: what we need today are men with a mandate higher than the ballot box!
https://www.lds.org/new-era/1978/07/ame ... s?lang=eng
He cherished the right to vote, and he always remembered a conversation he had with his father after an election. George had publicly supported a certain candidate, and he had even prayed for this man in family prayers. After George learned that his candidate had lost the election, Ezra heard him pray for the man who had won. Ezra asked his father why he would pray for a candidate who wasn’t his choice. “Son,” George replied, “I think he’ll need our prayers even more than my candidate would have.”
https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-of ... query=vote
I did find other quotes from President Benson on the topic:
President Ezra Taft Benson
“We must become involved in civic affairs. As citizens … we cannot do our duty and be idle spectators. It is vital that we follow this counsel from the Lord: ‘Honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil’” (D&C 98:10) (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 683).
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1999/02/gett ... g?lang=eng
“If we keep the commandments we’ll be good citizens,” President Ezra Taft Benson has said. “We’ll exercise our right to vote. We’ll follow the counsel which the Lord has given in the revelations regarding our obligation to seek out ‘honest men and wise men’ (D&C 98:8–10) who will stand for principle, men who will put principle ahead of political expediency.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1950, p. 148.)
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1988/08/prep ... s?lang=eng
May I urge you to seek out good, wise, and honest men for public office, and then support them with your vote. You will note the conditions wherein the Lord counseled that we should support men in political office. They ought to be “good,” “wise,” and “honest.” Some men are good and honest, but not wise. These qualities combined provide statesmanship. I’ve said it many times: what we need today are men with a mandate higher than the ballot box!
https://www.lds.org/new-era/1978/07/ame ... s?lang=eng
He cherished the right to vote, and he always remembered a conversation he had with his father after an election. George had publicly supported a certain candidate, and he had even prayed for this man in family prayers. After George learned that his candidate had lost the election, Ezra heard him pray for the man who had won. Ezra asked his father why he would pray for a candidate who wasn’t his choice. “Son,” George replied, “I think he’ll need our prayers even more than my candidate would have.”
https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-of ... query=vote
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Re: Help--Sourcing a "quote"
Quotes from other prophets/sources in the church:
“… to vote for wicked men, it would be sin,” said Hyrum Smith. (Documentary History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 323.)
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/07/civi ... s?lang=eng
Are we a political people? Yes, very political indeed. But what party do you belong to or would you vote for? I will tell you whom we will vote for: we will vote for the man who will sustain the principles of civil and religious liberty, the man who knows the most and who has the best heart and brain for a statesman; and we do not care a farthing whether he is a whig, a democrat, … a republican, … or anything else. These are our politics (DBY, 358).
https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-br ... query=vote
“Under existing circumstances we have no other alternative, and if we can accomplish our object well, if not we shall have the satisfaction of knowing that we have acted conscientiously and have used our best judgment; and if we have to throw away our votes, we had better do so upon a worthy, rather than upon an unworthy individual, who might make use of the weapon we put in his hand to destroy us with” (“Who Shall Be Our Next President!” Nauvoo Neighbor, Feb. 14, 1844).
“Let every man then that hates oppression, and loves the cause of right, not only vote himself; but use his influence to obtain the votes of others, that we may by every legal means support that man whose election will secure the greatest amount of good to the nation at large” (“Religion and Politics,” Times and Seasons, Mar. 15, 1844, 471).
https://www.lds.org/manual/presidents-o ... query=vote
"Above all else, strive to support good and conscientious candidates, of either party, who are aware of the great dangers inherent in communism, and who are truly dedicated to the Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers. They should also pledge their sincere fealty to our way of liberty—a liberty which aims at the preservation of both personal and property rights."
Official statement, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1964
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/10/the- ... s?lang=eng
Last April President Harold B. Lee... said, “we must seek for statesmanlike men who will ask, ‘Is it right and is it good for the country or the community?’ instead of those who may merely ask, ‘Is it politically expedient?’”
-Hugh B. Brown (democrat), 1972
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/10/the- ... s?lang=eng
“… to vote for wicked men, it would be sin,” said Hyrum Smith. (Documentary History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 323.)
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/07/civi ... s?lang=eng
Are we a political people? Yes, very political indeed. But what party do you belong to or would you vote for? I will tell you whom we will vote for: we will vote for the man who will sustain the principles of civil and religious liberty, the man who knows the most and who has the best heart and brain for a statesman; and we do not care a farthing whether he is a whig, a democrat, … a republican, … or anything else. These are our politics (DBY, 358).
https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-br ... query=vote
“Under existing circumstances we have no other alternative, and if we can accomplish our object well, if not we shall have the satisfaction of knowing that we have acted conscientiously and have used our best judgment; and if we have to throw away our votes, we had better do so upon a worthy, rather than upon an unworthy individual, who might make use of the weapon we put in his hand to destroy us with” (“Who Shall Be Our Next President!” Nauvoo Neighbor, Feb. 14, 1844).
“Let every man then that hates oppression, and loves the cause of right, not only vote himself; but use his influence to obtain the votes of others, that we may by every legal means support that man whose election will secure the greatest amount of good to the nation at large” (“Religion and Politics,” Times and Seasons, Mar. 15, 1844, 471).
https://www.lds.org/manual/presidents-o ... query=vote
"Above all else, strive to support good and conscientious candidates, of either party, who are aware of the great dangers inherent in communism, and who are truly dedicated to the Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers. They should also pledge their sincere fealty to our way of liberty—a liberty which aims at the preservation of both personal and property rights."
Official statement, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1964
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/10/the- ... s?lang=eng
Last April President Harold B. Lee... said, “we must seek for statesmanlike men who will ask, ‘Is it right and is it good for the country or the community?’ instead of those who may merely ask, ‘Is it politically expedient?’”
-Hugh B. Brown (democrat), 1972
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/10/the- ... s?lang=eng
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Re: Help--Sourcing a "quote"
The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can't and shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.
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Re: Help--Sourcing a "quote"
President Benson did make this statement. I listened to a talk he gave while I was at the gym a few weeks ago. Sadly, I never noted where or when the talk was given. I listen to conference talks and devotional talks as I workout. Even though I don't remember the details of when and where the talk was given does not negate the fact that I heard it from Pres. Benson's own voice as he gave his sermon.
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Re: Help--Sourcing a "quote"
Thank you Sno. I don't know how I missed this thread. I saw it but didn't look into it. My brother sent me the same information yesterday including it being attributed to Mike Thompson. I would think if this was an official stand it wouldn't be nearly this difficult to find the source. It appears to have been brought up to accuse Trump supporters of supporting evil. Even if President Benson said it 22+ years ago the world and nation is different today. I don't know what the next few weeks will bring with all the turmoil but at this point I do not feel bad about who I am supporting. When I get more time I want to read Mar's quotes. I pray for this nation and the people in it.snoscythe wrote:I've been trying to source this quote that's been flooding my inbox the last week or two and is now taking over Mormon Facebook.
Problem is, I don't think Ezra Taft Benson ever said it. Can anyone find a source on this? Usually it's pretty simple to find sources on what apostles and prophets have said, but I'm coming up empty on this one: