Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by Gunk » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:01 am

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Gunk, when did you serve. I served in the mid-90s when going to college for a year was the norm. Many missionaries were close to 20 by the they finished a year of college, got their call that summer and entered the MTC and made it to the field.
I served '97 to '99.

A lot of guys I went in with had a year of college under their belts. Most were 18 their freshman year.
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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by Gunk » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am

BoiseBYU wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:16 pm
Gunk wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:20 pm
Well, consider yourself lucky because some shape or form of the above conversation happened at least a half dozen different times to me on my mission. Got tiring. I had a couple of companions that just wouldn't let it go.

I can only imagine the false accusations people are jumping to Emery's case.
It is too bad it happened to you. It doesn’t mean that Mormons are judgmental in general or that is how they will and do react in such circumstances. THAT conclusion strikes me as judgmental.
People are judgemental, whether they are Mormon or not. It's human nature to observe and draw conclusions. Some cultures are more judgemental than others over certain things.

I'm not losing any sleep over my experience. No grudges on my end. It was just something that happened, so I can relate to Emery's experience.

This was just my experience. I've witnessed numerous instances of judgey members.
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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by Mars » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:31 am

I had 3 different companions who had shot a gun at somebody (gang drivebys, etc).
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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by blue42 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:55 am

I haven't seen too much of the going out late judgement, but come home early then all sorts of judgement breaks out.

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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by BoiseBYU » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:44 pm

Gunk wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am
BoiseBYU wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:16 pm
Gunk wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:20 pm
Well, consider yourself lucky because some shape or form of the above conversation happened at least a half dozen different times to me on my mission. Got tiring. I had a couple of companions that just wouldn't let it go.

I can only imagine the false accusations people are jumping to Emery's case.
It is too bad it happened to you. It doesn’t mean that Mormons are judgmental in general or that is how they will and do react in such circumstances. THAT conclusion strikes me as judgmental.
People are judgemental, whether they are Mormon or not. It's human nature to observe and draw conclusions. Some cultures are more judgemental than others over certain things.

I'm not losing any sleep over my experience. No grudges on my end. It was just something that happened, so I can relate to Emery's experience.

This was just my experience. I've witnessed numerous instances of judgey members.
We all can stand to do better in this regard, especially yours truly.

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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by BroncoBot » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:50 pm

BoiseBYU wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:44 pm
Gunk wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am
BoiseBYU wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:16 pm
Gunk wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:20 pm
Well, consider yourself lucky because some shape or form of the above conversation happened at least a half dozen different times to me on my mission. Got tiring. I had a couple of companions that just wouldn't let it go.

I can only imagine the false accusations people are jumping to Emery's case.
It is too bad it happened to you. It doesn’t mean that Mormons are judgmental in general or that is how they will and do react in such circumstances. THAT conclusion strikes me as judgmental.
People are judgemental, whether they are Mormon or not. It's human nature to observe and draw conclusions. Some cultures are more judgemental than others over certain things.

I'm not losing any sleep over my experience. No grudges on my end. It was just something that happened, so I can relate to Emery's experience.

This was just my experience. I've witnessed numerous instances of judgey members.
We all can stand to do better in this regard, especially yours truly.
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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by Gunk » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:36 am

BroncoBot wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:50 pm
BoiseBYU wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:44 pm
Gunk wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am
BoiseBYU wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:16 pm
Gunk wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:20 pm
Well, consider yourself lucky because some shape or form of the above conversation happened at least a half dozen different times to me on my mission. Got tiring. I had a couple of companions that just wouldn't let it go.

I can only imagine the false accusations people are jumping to Emery's case.
It is too bad it happened to you. It doesn’t mean that Mormons are judgmental in general or that is how they will and do react in such circumstances. THAT conclusion strikes me as judgmental.
People are judgemental, whether they are Mormon or not. It's human nature to observe and draw conclusions. Some cultures are more judgemental than others over certain things.

I'm not losing any sleep over my experience. No grudges on my end. It was just something that happened, so I can relate to Emery's experience.

This was just my experience. I've witnessed numerous instances of judgey members.
We all can stand to do better in this regard, especially yours truly.
Yours truley = Gunk, right?
Just messin'.
I am pretty judgemental. Especially when it comes to BYU sports teams.
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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by frdbtr » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:58 am

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Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:54 am
I like Nick Emery as a basketball player and as a person. It appears he's been accused of all manner of things including breaking the honor code which he does flat out deny. He's been through a lot with that divorce. Maybe the booster thing is true. Maybe it isn't. One thing that I'm working on personally is to not judge others. Maybe it was just a smart move to avoid the NCAA penalty. I just hope he gets his life back together.

On a side note I think divorce for men in the LDS church is especially difficult. I remember someone writing in one time to the Ensign stating that there are plenty of articles all of the time about how women in the Church deal with divorce and unfaithful husbands etc but that there's never or rarely anything written for men to deal with divorce and unfaithful wives. Again, maybe Emery is at fault and maybe he isn't but it seems that in the Church 99.99% of the time everyone just assumes that the husband was either a jerk or unfaithful.
There is a ton of truth here. I've been through this myself.

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Re: Nick Emery Blogs About His Withdrawing from BYU

Post by Jarhead » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:20 am

I do not subscribe to the theory that Mormons are particularly "judgey". Humans in general, tend to be "judgey". Depending on what social circle/groups you are involved/affiliated with, there are different things to be "judgey" about. People may be offended when a particular group tends to judge in one area more than another group, but I think you'll find that there is plenty of "judgeyness" to go around, and without conscious effort, folks will find something to be "judgey" about based on there personal values and biases.

I dislike the word "judgey"

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