Re: Could Frankie J won an NCAA game with BYU this year?
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:46 am
BlueK wrote:Davies even getting a couple of NBA seasons at all is well beyond what anyone could reasonably expect. The other two have major issues as far as the NBA is concerned that a different coach wouldn't have been able to fix into NBA talent. To insinuate otherwise I think is silly. There is a reason those guys weren't recruited by Duke.snoscythe wrote:It's apparently obvious from my post that I think FJ is and always has been the suckiest sucker who ever sucked until Coach K put his miracle hands on him and cried for the demons to exit. If he would have come to BYU he probably would be our backup sweat-mopper under the East hoop (not good enough to backup mop sweat in front of the ROC). Thanks for totally mischaracterizing what I said (that FJ would not necessarily be as good a player at BYU under Rose as he was at Duke under Krzyzewski) into something laughable. You defeated that straw man with gusto.BlueK wrote:Do you really think he would have sucked?snoscythe wrote:Some of you seem to be operating under the assumption that Frank Jackson would have been just as good at BYU as he was this year at Duke.
Do you really think Coach Rose would have been able to coach him up to the same level as Krzyzewski? If so, you're up in the night.
What player have we seen Dave Rose coach up to NBA standards? Jimmer Fredette? Brandon Davies? Kyle Collinsworth?
I'd like to know what your basis is for thinking Coach K and Coach Rose are equals when it comes to player development, cuz I don't see a lot of it going on.
I never said anything about Rose being Coach K's equal either. I just said for Duke to flop in the second round with the talent they have this year is pretty darn disappointing. It happens. It's not an exact science. Frank J would have helped BYU to be better. You can't usually add that much talent and be worse. How much, who knows. Like I said, Duke has loads of it and underachieved this year. Coach K is still a brilliant coach, but Rose isn't a failure either. I love Steve Cleveland, but Rose has been better. WAY BETTER. He was just good enough to push the expectations today beyond what they've ever been at BYU which is what allows the fans to be unhappy with a decade of NCAAs and 3 NITs. I'm old enough to remember when that would have been unheard of here. But I get it. It's human nature to always hold the bar higher. He will have to turn it around next year or he'll probably retire soon.