Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

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Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by frdbtr » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:21 pm

I encourage you to read this article all the way to the end. Take note of Steve Cleveland's opinion and Kinahan's closing statement.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by hawkwing » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:38 pm

I don't read PK or Gordon Monson, even if they have a rare moment of clarity, I refuse to give them clicks.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by frdbtr » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:16 pm

hawkwing wrote:I don't read PK or Gordon Monson, even if they have a rare moment of clarity, I refuse to give them clicks.
Monson doesn't have moments of clarity so I don't read him. PK goes back and forth. It is your prerogative to not read but this is a good and fair article for BYU.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by Isola » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:54 pm

hawkwing wrote:I don't read PK or Gordon Monson, even if they have a rare moment of clarity, I refuse to give them clicks.
I accidentally clicked on this article and read the first three paragraphs. Then a bad odor started filling the room and I thought "who wrote this?" I scrolled up to find what I already knew at that point.

That happens every time I stumble across something PK writes. It isn't the subject, since I clicked on the article after reading the headline. PK has a troll tone.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by frdbtr » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Isola wrote:
hawkwing wrote:I don't read PK or Gordon Monson, even if they have a rare moment of clarity, I refuse to give them clicks.
I accidentally clicked on this article and read the first three paragraphs. Then a bad odor started filling the room and I thought "who wrote this?" I scrolled up to find what I already knew at that point.

That happens every time I stumble across something PK writes. It isn't the subject, since I clicked on the article after reading the headline. PK has a troll tone.
You have to read it all the way to the end to get the message he is trying to give. If you read the first 3 paragraphs (where he quotes Monson's crap), you miss the entire point of his article.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by Gunk » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:13 pm

I didn't think it was a bad article. Nice to hear from Cleveland. I trust that guy.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by BlueK » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:09 pm

the next five are all games we're supposed to win. If BYU just takes care of business one by one they'll be 18-5, going into the Gonzaga game, which will be their best record after that many games since 2012. With a strong inside game and Bryant emerging as the third key player on the guard line, I think this team is better equipped than the recent past ones to avoid the upsets from the WCC bottom 7.
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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by 1967cougar » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:12 pm

Will someone please summarize the article for me. When I see the names Monson and Kinihan, I have to go wash my eyes out with bleach.

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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by BlueK » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:17 pm

The article can be summed up in one quote from Steve Cleveland and a sentence from Kinahan.

Cleveland:
“The idea that there’s a loose ship or that there’s a circumstance where practice is unorganized or there just isn’t an attention to detail, that is absolutely not true,” Cleveland said. “You don’t do what this group has done over the past 11 or 12 years without having an attention to detail or a plan.”

Kinahan:
In reality, expectations for BYU this season were unreasonable considering the group’s inexperience. The starting lineup is comprised of two freshmen, two sophomores and one senior who transferred into the program for his last season.


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Re: Patrick Kinahan a voice of reason?

Post by scott715 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:17 pm

We're older and wiser.

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