BYU Opponents: Week 12

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BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by Fido » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:35 am

WEEK 12 Games

Portland State (0-10) Lost @ Eastern Washington (5-4) 33-59
#20 LSU (7-3) Won @ Tennessee (4-5) 30-10
Utah (5-5) Lost @ #18 Washington (8-1) 30-33
#5 Wisconsin (10-0) Won vs #24 Michigan (7-2) 24-10
Utah State (5-5) Won vs Hawaii (3-6) 38-0
#25 Boise State (8-2) Won vs Air Force (4-5) 44-19
#16 Mississippi State (7-3) Won @ Arkansas (4-6) 28-21
East Carolina (2-8) Won vs Cincinnati (3-6) 48-20
San Jose State (1-10) Lost @ Colorado State (6-4) 14-42
Fresno State (7-3) Won @ Wyoming (6-3) 13-7
UNLV (4-6) Won @ New Mexico (3-6) 38-35
UMass (3-7) Won @ BYU (3-8) 16-10
Hawaii (3-7) Lost @ Utah State (5-5) 0-38

WEEK 13 Games

Portland State (0-11)
#20 LSU (8-3) vs Texas A&M (7-4)
Utah (5-6) vs Colorado (5-6)
#5 Wisconsin (11-0) @ Minnesota (5-6)
Utah State (6-5) @ Air Force (4-7)
#25 Boise State (9-2) @ Fresno State (8-3)
#16 Mississippi State (8-3) vs Ole Miss (5-6)
East Carolina (3-8) @ #21 Memphis (9-1)
San Jose State (1-11) vs Wyoming (7-4)
Fresno State (8-3) vs #25 Boise State (9-2)
UNLV (5-6) @ Nevada (2-9)
UMass (4-7) BYE
Hawaii (3-8) vs BYU (3-9)

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by hawkwing » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:01 am

This post here proves that BYU's schedule was not particularly tough this year. In fact, probably one of the weaker schedules BYU has ever faced.

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by Fido » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:54 am

There are 4 ranked teams--one of which has been in the top 10 nearly all season. I wouldn't categorize that as one of the weaker schedules. After all, the first 6 weeks BYU was ranked among the toughest schedules in the country.
I think there are plenty of teams on there to show that BYU should be able to do better than the 3 wins they accumulated. And the back half of the schedule normalized the difficulty compared to other teams.

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by YNot » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:54 pm

Yeah, when has BYU ever faced four teams that finished the season ranked? Probably never. Could still be eight bowl teams on this schedule, if Utah and UNLV win - and I think both are favored.

BUT, that back-half of the schedule...I expected 5-1 (saw pre-season that ECU was a tough, cross-country trap game)...nothing worse than 4-2 would have been forgivable. But, we run the risk of finishing 2-4 against that back half. Yuck!

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by snoscythe » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:30 pm

YNot wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:54 pm
BUT, that back-half of the schedule...I expected 5-1 (saw pre-season that ECU was a tough, cross-country trap game)...nothing worse than 4-2 would have been forgivable. But, we run the risk of finishing 2-4 against that back half. Yuck!
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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by Woody3715 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:53 pm

This was the first win this season by UMass against an FBS team. Its other wins were against FCS schools.
Playing 6 Mountain West schools (Fresno State is the only MW opponent with a winning record), 0-11 FCS Portland State, 3-8 East Carolina and 4-7 UMass (3 wins over FCS schools) is hardly a tough schedule.

Wisconsin is a great team, Miss State and LSU are very good and Utah is a middle of the road P5 team. The rest are cupcakes.

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by Fido » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:43 pm

Woody3715 wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:53 pm
This was the first win this season by UMass against an FBS team. Its other wins were against FCS schools.
Playing 6 Mountain West schools (Fresno State is the only MW opponent with a winning record), 0-11 FCS Portland State, 3-8 East Carolina and 4-7 UMass (3 wins over FCS schools) is hardly a tough schedule.

Wisconsin is a great team, Miss State and LSU are very good and Utah is a middle of the road P5 team. The rest are cupcakes.
Did you forget about Boise State and Utah State? They both have winning records.

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by Woody3715 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:01 am

Fido wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:43 pm
Woody3715 wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:53 pm
This was the first win this season by UMass against an FBS team. Its other wins were against FCS schools.
Playing 6 Mountain West schools (Fresno State is the only MW opponent with a winning record), 0-11 FCS Portland State, 3-8 East Carolina and 4-7 UMass (3 wins over FCS schools) is hardly a tough schedule.

Wisconsin is a great team, Miss State and LSU are very good and Utah is a middle of the road P5 team. The rest are cupcakes.
Did you forget about Boise State and Utah State? They both have winning records.
Corrected. But they are still Mountain West mid-majors and cupcakes for any program that thinks of itself as a P5 level program..

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by Fido » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:44 pm

Woody3715 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:01 am
Fido wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:43 pm
Woody3715 wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:53 pm
This was the first win this season by UMass against an FBS team. Its other wins were against FCS schools.
Playing 6 Mountain West schools (Fresno State is the only MW opponent with a winning record), 0-11 FCS Portland State, 3-8 East Carolina and 4-7 UMass (3 wins over FCS schools) is hardly a tough schedule.

Wisconsin is a great team, Miss State and LSU are very good and Utah is a middle of the road P5 team. The rest are cupcakes.
Did you forget about Boise State and Utah State? They both have winning records.
Corrected. But they are still Mountain West mid-majors and cupcakes for any program that thinks of itself as a P5 level program..
Boise State considered a "cupcake"? Okay, I guess we disagree.

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Re: BYU Opponents: Week 12

Post by frdbtr » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:26 pm

Fido wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:44 pm
Woody3715 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:01 am
Fido wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:43 pm
Woody3715 wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:53 pm
This was the first win this season by UMass against an FBS team. Its other wins were against FCS schools.
Playing 6 Mountain West schools (Fresno State is the only MW opponent with a winning record), 0-11 FCS Portland State, 3-8 East Carolina and 4-7 UMass (3 wins over FCS schools) is hardly a tough schedule.

Wisconsin is a great team, Miss State and LSU are very good and Utah is a middle of the road P5 team. The rest are cupcakes.
Did you forget about Boise State and Utah State? They both have winning records.
Corrected. But they are still Mountain West mid-majors and cupcakes for any program that thinks of itself as a P5 level program..
Boise State considered a "cupcake"? Okay, I guess we disagree.
Boise state may not be a cupcake but we had them at home this year and with competent coaching could have won the game, kind of like the last few times we played them at home with Bronco as coach.

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