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[Mars]

I am fine with the coaches playing him until a legal precedent happened. You can't just suspend people because rumors are flying around. We don't want to invite a culture where the Duke lacrosse scandal is welcome to run rampant.

Once legal precedent has started (or a confession) then they should hold him out. I believe that you are innocent until proven guilty, which I admit isn't a popular position in today's stone throwing, false allegation riddled society.

I don't understand this take.

[Brayden Green]

https://highwaypatrol.utah.gov/importan ... citations/

A citation is a ticket, which comes down to a he said, she said accounting of the "offender" against the cop. Then it goes to court.

The players initially lied about the encounter.

They eventually have to go to court and either pay or fight the allegations or else a warrant will be sent out for their arrest, (they can't lie anymore when under oath in court, or else they face felony charges).

I have trust in the coaches that they made the decision when it came to them.

[mtnradio]

Possession of marijuana is still a crime ... a misdemeanor, and the officer chose not to arrest him, rather just cite and release. Don't underestimate it ... jail time is a real possibility.

[Mars]

Ula had weed in a frisbee. That's a fact.

[Brayden Green]

Possession of marijuana is still a crime ... a misdemeanor, and the officer chose not to arrest him, rather just cite and release. Don't underestimate it ... jail time is a real possibility.

I never said it wasn't a crime. So is speeding. So are a lot of things. There is a legal precedent that we have for determining whether or not people are guilty of crimes.

By the way, it shouldn't be. People shouldn't be in trouble for carrying a plant around.

[Brayden Green]

Ula had weed in a frisbee. That's a fact.

He also lied about it to the coaches. That's a fact.

When your player tells you that he didn't have weed in a frisbee, you are generally inclined to believe him. When more evidence presents itself, then you act on that evidence.

[Mars]

Ula had weed in a frisbee. That's a fact.

He also lied about it to the coaches. That's a fact.

When your player tells you that he didn't have weed in a frisbee, you are generally inclined to believe him. When more evidence presents itself, then you act on that evidence.

Link?

[mtnradio]

Possession of marijuana is still a crime ... a misdemeanor, and the officer chose not to arrest him, rather just cite and release. Don't underestimate it ... jail time is a real possibility.

I never said it wasn't a crime. So is speeding. So are a lot of things. There is a legal precedent that we have for determining whether or not people are guilty of crimes.

By the way, it shouldn't be. People shouldn't be in trouble for carrying a plant around.

Dude ... speeding is NOT a crime ... it is a civil infraction. This is a crime. Jail time is a possibility for crimes, not for infractions. Coming from a state that has legalized marijuana let me tell you that 1) it is STILL against the WofW and HC, and 2) drug dealers don't just give up because it is legal ... cartels try to take over the production AND other drugs become cheap and more prevalent. Here, Black Tar Heroine is replacing pot. Statements like "people shouldn't be in trouble for carrying a plant around" reveals a lot ...

[Mars]

Speeding isn't against the Honor Code. Marijuana is.

[Brayden Green]

Possession of marijuana is still a crime ... a misdemeanor, and the officer chose not to arrest him, rather just cite and release. Don't underestimate it ... jail time is a real possibility.

I never said it wasn't a crime. So is speeding. So are a lot of things. There is a legal precedent that we have for determining whether or not people are guilty of crimes.

By the way, it shouldn't be. People shouldn't be in trouble for carrying a plant around.

Dude ... speeding is NOT a crime ... it is a civil infraction. This is a crime. Jail time is a possibility for crimes, not for infractions. Coming from a state that has legalized marijuana let me tell you that 1) it is STILL against the WofW and HC, and 2) drug dealers don't just give up because it is legal ... cartels try to take over the production AND other drugs become cheap and more prevalent. Here, Black Tar Heroine is replacing pot. Statements like "people shouldn't be in trouble for carrying a plant around" reveals a lot ...

Reckless driving, ie speeding excessively is a crime in most states. I stand by my statement that people shouldn't be in trouble for carrying around a plant, doing no other harm to anyone else. I don't see anything wrong with that statement, but that's just me. DM me if you'd like to have a discussion about this. I've researched the topic extensively, actually. So do your homework before you engage.