Things may be getting worse... Tolutau cited
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Re: Things may be getting worse... Tolutau cited
Listen to Jake Kuresea, he admits that he did not like Bronco Mendenhall, and that it took him a few years after he graduated to recognize what he had given him and now loves him.
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Re: Things may be getting worse... Tolutau cited
Ken Schmidt, former Lavell assistant/coordinator also coached at Ricks. I remember when the dean of students came to him and told him there were some players who may have violated the HC. He asked the dean of they did it, the answer was yes. The next practice 20-30 players were asked to turn in their uniforms, and the names/ numbers removed from all rosters and faces literally blacked out of team pictures. At least 11 of those kicked out were starters.
Ricks won the national championship that year.
Ricks won the national championship that year.
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Re: Things may be getting worse... Tolutau cited
At least Tolutau is resourceful:
Tolutau was a passenger and was found holding a frisbee containing marijuana. He told the deputy that the pot was in a frisbee because he didn’t have a baggie.
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Re: Things may be getting worse... Tolutau cited
Football players (or athletes in general) get preferential treatment at a lot universities. If you think that doesn't occur at BYU, to some extent, then you're kidding yourself. As someone who left the church while living in BYU housing, I had the opportunity to see both sides of students there. You'd probably be shocked at some of the stuff that students do on the down low.
Or, like a lot of "new age" millennial Mormons I met while living in BYU housing, he doesn't believe pot is a sin/should be against the Honor Code.
Before anybody jumps down my throat, I would agree that he should be punished, regardless if he thinks x, y, or z shouldn't be illegal/against the Honor Code.
Or he lost his faith while on his mission and hasn't figured out how to tell people. He wouldn't be the first person to have that happen.
Or, like a lot of "new age" millennial Mormons I met while living in BYU housing, he doesn't believe pot is a sin/should be against the Honor Code.
Before anybody jumps down my throat, I would agree that he should be punished, regardless if he thinks x, y, or z shouldn't be illegal/against the Honor Code.
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I wouldn't be shocked at all and I was there in the early 90's. BYU students are just like everyone else in any other university. You can find what you want to find anywhere. I didn't leave the church over it though.UCChris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm Football players (or athletes in general) get preferential treatment at a lot universities. If you think that doesn't occur at BYU, to some extent then you're kidding yourself. As someone who left the church while living in BYU housing I had the opportunity to see both sides of students there. You'd probably be shocked at some of the stuff that students do on the down low.
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Re: Things may be getting worse... Tolutau cited
Losing games won't cost Kalani his job this season.
Losing games and having a bevy of honor code violations could. The honor code violations are a sign to the administration that Kalani isn't serious about the honor code because his team doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
This is the one thing Kalani could do to lose his job after this season.
Losing games and having a bevy of honor code violations could. The honor code violations are a sign to the administration that Kalani isn't serious about the honor code because his team doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
This is the one thing Kalani could do to lose his job after this season.
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That is a very good answer frdbtr. There are a lot of reasons to leave but I haven't left either.frdbtr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:18 pmI wouldn't be shocked at all and I was there in the early 90's. BYU students are just like everyone else in any other university. You can find what you want to find anywhere. I didn't leave the church over it though.UCChris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm Football players (or athletes in general) get preferential treatment at a lot universities. If you think that doesn't occur at BYU, to some extent then you're kidding yourself. As someone who left the church while living in BYU housing I had the opportunity to see both sides of students there. You'd probably be shocked at some of the stuff that students do on the down low.
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Hey I remember Schmidt and winning the championship. I was not aware of this story. Could he be talked out of retirement?mtnradio wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:29 pm Ken Schmidt, former Lavell assistant/coordinator also coached at Ricks. I remember when the dean of students came to him and told him there were some players who may have violated the HC. He asked the dean of they did it, the answer was yes. The next practice 20-30 players were asked to turn in their uniforms, and the names/ numbers removed from all rosters and faces literally blacked out of team pictures. At least 11 of those kicked out were starters.
Ricks won the national championship that year.
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I didn't leave the church over that either.frdbtr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:18 pmI wouldn't be shocked at all and I was there in the early 90's. BYU students are just like everyone else in any other university. You can find what you want to find anywhere. I didn't leave the church over it though.UCChris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm Football players (or athletes in general) get preferential treatment at a lot universities. If you think that doesn't occur at BYU, to some extent then you're kidding yourself. As someone who left the church while living in BYU housing I had the opportunity to see both sides of students there. You'd probably be shocked at some of the stuff that students do on the down low.
Anyway, enough of that. I just wanted to share my experiences and hopefully offer a potential reason why this is happening.