Jordan Pendleton would not commit to BYU

[YNot]

Still don't agree. UU has wins against BYU (sure BYU sucks, but a win over BYU is a win) and AZ who has a winning record and is at least a p5 team. They've lost on a failed 2 point conversion against a ranked USC team and a FG loss to Stanford. Their record may be a downer, but they've got little to hang their heads over.

Notre Dame just destroyed USC (49-14). USC did not look sharp against Western Michigan, Cal, Washington St., or Utah. USC is ranked because they are USC. They have the inside track at the PAC 12 South because the division just isn't very good this year and USC avoids Washington in the cross-division schedule.

Stanford looked bad in losing to USC, lost to SDSU (who just got owned by Fresno St.) and has Utah as their only decent win. Stanford is only ranked because their first half schedule looked decent with USC, Utah, and SDSU all ranked. SDSU and Utah have been exposed as pretenders and Stanford will be exposed against Washington, Notre Dame, and Washington St. down the stretch.

Utah was ranked early because of a soft schedule and the inflated rankings of Stanford and USC (see above). Arizona, who is claimed to be the Ewetes' only decent win, lost to Houston (4-3, 2-2 and 4th place in AAC West) at home, and has enjoyed a cakewalk PAC schedule so far - Utah, Colorado, UCLA, Cal. Two of their 3 PAC wins have come in 45-44 and 45-42 games. Those are old time WAC scores, which don't happen because of great football.

Utah may yet reach bowl eligibility because they play in the weak PAC 12 South, get UCLA and Colorado at home down the stretch, and because they played BYU, SJSU, and North Dakota in the non-conference schedule.

[hawkwing]

Utah is not very good this year. They are in the worst spot talent wise they've been in many years, but they have hard nosed coaching that will keep them competitive and in games. This is the difference good coaching makes. If they were under BYU's staff they'd be winless and not competitive (like BYU).

[BoiseBYU]

Still don't agree. UU has wins against BYU (sure BYU sucks, but a win over BYU is a win) and AZ who has a winning record and is at least a p5 team. They've lost on a failed 2 point conversion against a ranked USC team and a FG loss to Stanford. Their record may be a downer, but they've got little to hang their heads over.

AND you are STILL not reading my post. I am NOT comparing BYU and UT. I am stating that football in the State of Utah this year is down. Your only response is they beat a 4-3 AZ Woohoo! The fact that UT beat BYU does not mean football in the State of UT is better as a result.

[BroncoBot]

Utah is not very good this year. They are in the worst spot talent wise they've been in many years, but they have hard nosed coaching that will keep them competitive and in games. This is the difference good coaching makes. If they were under BYU's staff they'd be winless and not competitive (like BYU).

The fact that BYU played them to a single possession and their kicker saved their trash bears this out. However, they are competing.

[BroncoBot]

Still don't agree. UU has wins against BYU (sure BYU sucks, but a win over BYU is a win) and AZ who has a winning record and is at least a p5 team. They've lost on a failed 2 point conversion against a ranked USC team and a FG loss to Stanford. Their record may be a downer, but they've got little to hang their heads over.

AND you are STILL not reading my post. I am NOT comparing BYU and UT. I am stating that football in the State of Utah this year is down. Your only response is they beat a 4-3 AZ Woohoo! The fact that UT beat BYU does not mean football in the State of UT is better as a result.

I completely understand your point.
You're still not getting my drift. And I didn't compare the two programs in the above quoted post. I'll take responsibility for that though. perhaps the following will make my point more clear.
Utah is having an average year.
BYU is not.

[hawkwing]

Utah is not very good this year. They are in the worst spot talent wise they've been in many years, but they have hard nosed coaching that will keep them competitive and in games. This is the difference good coaching makes. If they were under BYU's staff they'd be winless and not competitive (like BYU).

The fact that BYU played them to a single possession and their kicker saved their trash bears this out. However, they are competing.

Yep, that's the difference coaching can make.

[BroncoBot]

Kids want to win. I get it. Dime a dozen. That’s why AL is number one every year. Not sure why these athletes who just want to win will necessarily go to UT. Name me a good team they’ve beaten this year. AZ? But I digress. I’m sure they will have a winning record when all is said and done, and if that is all it takes, then I’m sure UT will get their share. When the chips are down, we need leader/athletes who can lift. I hope there are some out there for us. We could use a few.

ASU dominates UT. They still don’t have a quality win. I know we don’t even have a quality loss, but Beehive State football on a real downer.

Oregon destroys u of u.
BYU beats SJSU!
I'm not sure which way this moves the pendulum...

[BOID]

BYU football is a sleeping giant right now = could be great if it wakes up. If team leadership emerges among a few players, and then if others buy in, synchrony develops, then a taste of success, followed by more faith/confidence and pride as a team.

I'm not predicting this; just saying it could happen. We saw a hint of that yesterday. The quality of BYU's athletes is on the level. The coaches are not 100% responsible for all of this. Some of it is on the players.

We'll see how this team responds next week against Fresno St. Then we will know.

[Brayden Green]

Utah is not very good this year. They are in the worst spot talent wise they've been in many years, but they have hard nosed coaching that will keep them competitive and in games. This is the difference good coaching makes. If they were under BYU's staff they'd be winless and not competitive (like BYU).

The fact that BYU played them to a single possession and their kicker saved their trash bears this out. However, they are competing.

Utah would be in SERIOUS trouble if they didn't sell out any standards they might have been clinging to and get Carrington.

We would be doing much better if Bernard was on the team playing for us this year. Sometimes it just pays to not have morals or standards, in the short term.

I disagree that U of U is "light years" ahead of BYU. The result from the last two games should show you that. 2 games, 5 points between.

[mtnradio]

BYU football is a sleeping giant right now = could be great if it wakes up. If team leadership emerges among a few players, and then if others buy in, synchrony develops, then a taste of success, followed by more faith/confidence and pride as a team.

I'm not predicting this; just saying it could happen. We saw a hint of that yesterday. The quality of BYU's athletes is on the level. The coaches are not 100% responsible for all of this. Some of it is on the players.

We'll see how this team responds next week against Fresno St. Then we will know.

Leadership ... I do believe that has been the missing "Y Factor". Injuries have taken a huge toll on the Cougs this year too. Yesterday, especially in the first half, the team looked like the team of old. The passing game was nice to see (perhaps the return to a pass focus is a result of losing Tolutau). El Bakri stepped up in a motivating way (that hit on the KO will be felt by the other kid for a month!). Tanner played with more confidence. It seems to me that there was some leadership and some change in coaching mentality ... Plus it was SJSU.

But the Cougs looked good enough in the 1st half to almost give me hope for the game against Fresno ... it must be these blasted blue goggles, I just can't get them off!