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Re: Loyalty to BYU or Individuals?

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frdbtr wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm
Jarhead wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:41 pm
BroncoBot wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:41 pm I'd rather cheer for the utes than a hypocritical BYU.
I agree with this 100%
I disagree. First how do you know it is hypocrisy. Sinning isn't always hypocrisy. Second of all, I will never cheer for the utes even if they were the last team on earth.
If they were the last team on earth, I'd hope they had a scrimmage in which they battled to a 0 to 0 tie and most of the players beat themselves up. I wouldn't watch it, but I'd read about it later. :evil:


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vancouvercougar wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:22 pm
frdbtr wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm
Jarhead wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:41 pm
BroncoBot wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:41 pm I'd rather cheer for the utes than a hypocritical BYU.
I agree with this 100%
I disagree. First how do you know it is hypocrisy. Sinning isn't always hypocrisy. Second of all, I will never cheer for the utes even if they were the last team on earth.
If they were the last team on earth, I'd hope they had a scrimmage in which they battled to a 0 to 0 tie and most of the players beat themselves up. I wouldn't watch it, but I'd read about it later. :evil:
Exactly!! :D


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Re: Loyalty to BYU or Individuals?

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frdbtr wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm
Jarhead wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:41 pm
BroncoBot wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:41 pm I'd rather cheer for the utes than a hypocritical BYU.
I agree with this 100%
I disagree. First how do you know it is hypocrisy. Sinning isn't always hypocrisy. Second of all, I will never cheer for the utes even if they were the last team on earth.
It's not the sinning that would be hypocritical, it would be the covering it up, or calling it OK or even good by BYU.


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Re: Loyalty to BYU or Individuals?

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hawkwing wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:35 pm
frdbtr wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm
Jarhead wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:41 pm
BroncoBot wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:41 pm I'd rather cheer for the utes than a hypocritical BYU.
I agree with this 100%
I disagree. First how do you know it is hypocrisy. Sinning isn't always hypocrisy. Second of all, I will never cheer for the utes even if they were the last team on earth.
It's not the sinning that would be hypocritical, it would be the covering it up, or calling it OK or even good by BYU.
This was the exact point I was making. I actually wont ever cheer for the Utes, but BYU having an honor code and pretending to live by it while allowing certain individuals privileges in the name of getting football wins would be unacceptable to me. I'd rather cheer for Utah than support a hypocritical program.

Sins and stupidity can be overcome. Corrective steps must be taken, even if losses are the result. Nothing I like more than a redemption story though.


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Re: Loyalty to BYU or Individuals?

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BroncoBot wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:57 pm
hawkwing wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:35 pm
frdbtr wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:16 pm
Jarhead wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:41 pm
BroncoBot wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:41 pm I'd rather cheer for the utes than a hypocritical BYU.
I agree with this 100%
I disagree. First how do you know it is hypocrisy. Sinning isn't always hypocrisy. Second of all, I will never cheer for the utes even if they were the last team on earth.
It's not the sinning that would be hypocritical, it would be the covering it up, or calling it OK or even good by BYU.
This was the exact point I was making. I actually wont ever cheer for the Utes, but BYU having an honor code and pretending to live by it while allowing certain individuals privileges in the name of getting football wins would be unacceptable to me. I'd rather cheer for Utah than support a hypocritical program.

Sins and stupidity can be overcome. Corrective steps must be taken, even if losses are the result. Nothing I like more than a redemption story though.
I agree with this completely. Stated much clearer than your first post. :)


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Re: Loyalty to BYU or Individuals?

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I have a hard time cheering for a hypocritical BYU, but if there were no sports at BYU there are a lot of local teams I could cheer for— and I don’t live in Utah


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