Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

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Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by hawkwing » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:17 pm

I had an interesting chat with a friend of the Matt Gay family about his journey from Orem High Soccer to Field Goal kicker at the U.

He is by all accounts an avid soccer player but had also played some football in HS. Due to some circumstances in his life came home from his mission for medical reasons and decided to turn to football. His family were big BYU fans and reached out to the current staff about having the chance to walk on and do compete for the kicking job. He worked out for the staff and hit, from what I was told, 57 out of 60 field goals ranging in distance from 20 to 55 yards. The staff didn't feel like he had what it took to be a division 1 football player and passed on him completely. He then went to the Utes and gave them the same option and they instantly wanted him and brought him on as their kicker.

The family is now Ute proud, and Matt is doing a tremendous job at the U of U. By all accounts he's a very good young man with a good head on his shoulders and a real class act.

It's unfortunate the Cougars missed on this opportunity as our FG kicking has had some serious problems this year. But hopefully it's a lesson for the staff in talent evaluation. Obviously you can't get them all right all the time.

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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by Jarhead » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:19 pm

There is no good excuse for not always having a solid kicker at BYU. It's sad to see opportunities missed like this. Congrats to the young man on his success.

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Post by Gunk » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:47 pm

Too many of these types of stories.
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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by Sammich » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:41 am

Gunk wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:47 pm
Too many of these types of stories.
I agree in the abstract sense, but I hate to fault the staff in any particular instance without knowing all the facts. Did he have a snarky attitude toward the coaches when he was working out? Did he display a massive ego? Was there some other area where he completely failed in the tryouts that would make them concerned with his ability to play? I work with a bunch of young BYU students every year who are trying to get into our program, who are plenty talented, yet display other problems that make them a bad fit. Most of the time it's laziness, pride, or a super annoying personality. For all I know, they get our rejection letters, completely change their attitudes, then go somewhere else and become rockstars. But you'd have a hard time convincing me that their rejection in the first place was a mistake, and I'd argue that it was a necessary step for them to avoid catastrophic career failure.

I'm not saying in this case that Matt Gay had a bad attitude, but I am saying that the coaches deserve a little benefit of the doubt because we just don't know. They're not dealing with pro recruits, they're dealing with stupid freshmen or younger.

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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by frdbtr » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:37 am

I couldn't care less what his attitude is, if he hit 57-60 practice FG's, he should be on our team today. What we currently have couldn't hit the ocean from the pier. Matt Gay won the game against the utes practically by himself. (including bringing down Trinneman on the KO return).

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Post by KingCoug » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:16 am

hawkwing wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:17 pm
The family is now Ute proud, and Matt is doing a tremendous job at the U of U. By all accounts he's a very good young man with a good head on his shoulders and a real class act.
That makes me sick. I would try and dissuade my kid from playing for the U. But if he did end up playing for them, while I would hope my son would do well individually, I wouldn't suddenly change my loyalties and become "Ute proud." I'd still hope they lose every game and would keep rooting for BYU.
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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by ABYUFAN » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:43 am

frdbtr wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:37 am
I couldn't care less what his attitude is, if he hit 57-60 practice FG's, he should be on our team today. What we currently have couldn't hit the ocean from the pier. Matt Gay won the game against the utes practically by himself. (including bringing down Trinneman on the KO return).
This seems like an interesting half of a story written to persuade rather than inform. We do not know how many of how many practice field goals our guys currently on the team hit, we also don't know how the ball looked coming off of the kick (i.e. was it a low blockable ball or what.) there are too many things that we don't know about this story to get much of an informed opinion on the situation as a whole.

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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by hawkwing » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:52 am

ABYUFAN wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:43 am
frdbtr wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:37 am
I couldn't care less what his attitude is, if he hit 57-60 practice FG's, he should be on our team today. What we currently have couldn't hit the ocean from the pier. Matt Gay won the game against the utes practically by himself. (including bringing down Trinneman on the KO return).
This seems like an interesting half of a story written to persuade rather than inform. We do not know how many of how many practice field goals our guys currently on the team hit, we also don't know how the ball looked coming off of the kick (i.e. was it a low blockable ball or what.) there are too many things that we don't know about this story to get much of an informed opinion on the situation as a whole.
Not intended to persuade, but rather written from the obviously and understandably biased point of view of the family. Now unfortunately BYU will never reveal the reasoning they had for passing on Gay, it could be he actually only hit 30 of 60 field goals, or he had a chip on his shoulder, or they thought their field goal kicker in Almond would be good enough until that other kid gets home from his mission.

I just thought I'd pass along the info that I had heard.

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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by frdbtr » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:12 pm

BYU should have taken him specifically in order to keep the utes from getting him. The utes would have done the same thing in reverse.

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Re: Matt Gay and his journey to starting FG kicker at Utah

Post by Commoner » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:57 pm

frdbtr wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:37 am
I couldn't care less what his attitude is, if he hit 57-60 practice FG's, he should be on our team today. What we currently have couldn't hit the ocean from the pier. Matt Gay won the game against the utes practically by himself. (including bringing down Trinneman on the KO return).
Gay said, two weeks ago, that the BYU coaches told him that the “timing wasn’t right”.

I don’t know if that means that because he was a senior they didn’t want to waste a scholarship on a one- year player. Or it meant that they had their kicker(s) in place and they werent going to add another. Or a combination of both those scenarios.

This is reminiscent of the Andy Phillips story. He sent BYU staff a tape. They basically brushed him off. He sent the tape to Utah. They looked at it, gave him some tips and advice, told him to practice more and contact them in the spring. We know the rest.

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