What sets off a QB controversy?

BYU Cougars Football. Still Open, now Independent.
frdbtr
Over-Achiever
Posts: 6772
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:02 pm
Fan Level: BYU Blue Goggled Homer
Prediction Group: CougarCorner
Has thanked: 57 times
Been thanked: 40 times

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by frdbtr »

Taysom Hill was cut from Green Bay because the 3 guys in front of him were under contract. It was good business to cut him because if they hadn't, they would have had to buy out one of the contracts in front of him. He looked really good for them and their head coach had nothing but praise for his play. The Saints picked him up immediately.


selway
Gray Shirt
Posts: 16
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:05 pm
Fan Level: BYU Fan
Prediction Group: CougarCorner

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by selway »

Rule you better get your facts right. Green Bay only kept two quarterbacks. It was a business
decision with Huntley's contract being so big. Multable teams offered Taysom and the Packers were
very upset they lost him. Taysom is clearly back to or better physically than he was as a freshman.


User avatar
Mars
Retired
Posts: 9666
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:13 pm
Fan Level: BYU Fanatic
Prediction Group: CougarCorner

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by Mars »

Didn't Tanner beat Nebraska?


Mars Cauthon, Prince of the Cougars!
Resident board douchebag.
https://twitter.com/#!/eldermars
nuk13
All-American
Posts: 1672
Joined: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:43 am
Fan Level: BYU Fan
Prediction Group: CougarCorner
Has thanked: 264 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by nuk13 »

Yes Tanner did come in for that late TD toss. As far as lowly Wyoming goes, if BYU hadn't have had 210 yards from Williams the 3 point win would have been reversed.


TheDean
Freshman
Posts: 276
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:23 pm
Fan Level: BYU Fan
Prediction Group: CougarCorner

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by TheDean »

Cougs_Rule wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:21 am
frdbtr wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:05 am
BroncoBot wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:39 am
frdbtr wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:10 pm So all last year we moaned that Taysom couldn't throw and we wanted Tanner because he would "run the offense like it is supposed to be run". Now that the offense looks horrible with him, we want Hodge because he has the ability to run. The problem I have with that is, if there is no passing threat, the run is easy to stop. Why do you think everyone thought Taysom had lost a step last year and now he is running past Pro DB's scoring touchdowns. Incidentally, Taysom is now throwing to Pro WR's and all of a sudden looks like a passing QB that has amazing wheels, similar to what he looked like against Nebraska before losing one of his wheels. Like I said above, until we get WR's that are physical and work to get open and catch the freaking ball, all of our QB's are going to look horrible. The running game will get stuffed and BYU's fans are going to find a scapegoat for why it all isn't working. The funny thing is, I assumed that Ty's legend status would keep him out of the blame for a few games more than it has.
BYU fans are extremely fickle. I'm excited to see what Beau Tanner can do. He'd have to play Dang near perfect with a blowout win against Wisc ANF the offense will need to look better than it has under Taysom or Tanner AND for the coaches to actually come out and say that Beau is the man before I'm jumping off the Mangum bandwagon.

Taysom had one of the best records vs power 5 schools. Tanner has yet to beat anyone of importance. Unless you consider BSU of importance, which I don't.
If Tanner is injured, I am all in on Hoge. Having said that, I don't expect to see better QB play when/if he plays this afternoon.
Duh. It's his first start. Tanner is out of excuses. Either player will look better against weaker defenses up coming.
Not even close as Hoge has had his chance and was worse at it than Mangum and make a peewee level mistake in giving up the safety. That play is all on Hoge. Time to try some one else until Mangum comes back. Plus it is past time to fire the O-line coach and receivers coach.


frdbtr
Over-Achiever
Posts: 6772
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:02 pm
Fan Level: BYU Blue Goggled Homer
Prediction Group: CougarCorner
Has thanked: 57 times
Been thanked: 40 times

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by frdbtr »

The announcers said more than once that BYU doesn't have receivers that can stretch the field. They are right. Tanner Mangum, Beau Hoge, Koy Detmer, or Ty Detmer in his prime would look like crap in this offense. It doesn't matter. BYU is screwed because we can't stretch the field. We have speed but when it is easy to throw a guy off his route because they all hate to be touched, you aren't going to complete any deep balls. They don't fight for 50/50 balls and run the wrong way when they appear open which makes the QB look bad because the ball goes one way and the receiver goes the other way.


TheDean
Freshman
Posts: 276
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:23 pm
Fan Level: BYU Fan
Prediction Group: CougarCorner

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by TheDean »

frdbtr wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:57 pm The announcers said more than once that BYU doesn't have receivers that can stretch the field. They are right. Tanner Mangum, Beau Hoge, Koy Detmer, or Ty Detmer in his prime would look like crap in this offense. It doesn't matter. BYU is screwed because we can't stretch the field. We have speed but when it is easy to throw a guy off his route because they all hate to be touched, you aren't going to complete any deep balls. They don't fight for 50/50 balls and run the wrong way when they appear open which makes the QB look bad because the ball goes one way and the receiver goes the other way.
Like I have been saying all along the offense would be good if it weren't for the crappy play by the WRs and O-line. Which all goes back to coaching.


Cougs_Rule
Over-Achiever
Posts: 6809
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:43 pm
Fan Level: BYU Fan
Prediction Group: CougarCorner

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by Cougs_Rule »

frdbtr wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:57 pm The announcers said more than once that BYU doesn't have receivers that can stretch the field. They are right. Tanner Mangum, Beau Hoge, Koy Detmer, or Ty Detmer in his prime would look like crap in this offense. It doesn't matter. BYU is screwed because we can't stretch the field. We have speed but when it is easy to throw a guy off his route because they all hate to be touched, you aren't going to complete any deep balls. They don't fight for 50/50 balls and run the wrong way when they appear open which makes the QB look bad because the ball goes one way and the receiver goes the other way.
Agreed. It was nice to see Trinamen push off on his DB before he made his break on the catch in the first half.
But I will say again. TM may be a better thrower for now (gap isn't that BYU and should be a lot larger considering it was Hoges first start, first playing time in college, and a start vs a top ten team, etc. His next start will be far batter as it is for most qbs after their first start. AND, Hoge will move the chains more consistently, as he did today, in comparisin to TM, bc he can run the ball and extend plays. Yes the safety was pathetic and he will throw it away next time. But with bad WRs and average Oline, his wheels will add a dimension that TM can bring.


User avatar
Jarhead
All-American
Posts: 1141
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:38 am
Fan Level: BYU Fanatic
Prediction Group: CougarCorner
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by Jarhead »

Beau should be benched for a series for that safety. That was just stupid.


User avatar
Ungoy
All-American
Posts: 1963
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:56 pm
Fan Level: BYU Fanatic
Prediction Group: CougarCorner
Been thanked: 7 times

Re: What sets off a QB controversy?

Post by Ungoy »

Worst part about the safety was that Beau had all day to get rid of the ball. He was outside the pocket and all he needed to do was launch the ball out of bounds toward a receiver. Terrible, inexcusable play.


Post Reply