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Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-08-01T16:02:26-06:00

https://lawlessrepublic.com/2018/07/31/ ... te-impact/

Possible new impact players.

Statistics: Posted by scott715 — Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:02 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T22:43:05-06:00

Just thought I'd list where BYU's 2018 opponents landed in the recruiting wars today (from Scout). BYU #81.
Arizona, #58
California, #43
Wisconsin, #44
McNeese St., #222
Washington, #13
Utah St., #113
Hawaii, #94
Northern Illinois, #91
Boise St., #56
UMass, #114
New Mexico St., #124
Utah, #38

BTW -
LSU #15, UCLA #18, TCU #25, Stanford #39, Virginia #63, SUU #155, Weber St. #156, Navy #102, San Diego St. #77

Statistics: Posted by Ddawg — Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:43 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T22:17:37-06:00

I think the Bronco comparisons are going to happen as long as the current staff is under performing. Just like the Crowton vs Lavell comparisons happened all the way until Bronco got the team performing the way it should. Get used to it.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:17 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T21:46:49-06:00

I don't pay too much attention to the #83 ranking. ....

Overall - decent. Lacks any "star" power, but decent.

Funny, two years ago you were telling us that unless recruiting improved from our usual 60-70 ranking level, we would never improve:

I think BYU can become a solid B level football program. Better donor support and $$$ can help to lead to better recruiting and more resources - which can help with winning and lead to a better TV contract that gives BYU even more resources. But it can be kind of a catch 22 - unless some donors step it up or the new coaching staff is able to improve recruiting and the on-field product with the same resources.

Both sides of that equation included improving recruiting somehow, and yet now you're telling us everything is fine after we drop 23 spots below where you were calling for improvement....

[url=http://cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 88#p223488]You also rated the 2016 class as a C back then, and called it insufficient:

BYU's (2016) recruiting class was pretty ho-hum on the national radar - but par for the BYU course. I'd even say that BYU's class was C, may be C+. One of the top non-P5 recruiting classes, but easily among the bottom wrung when compared to the P5. BYU needs 1 or 2 more elite recruits and a half-dozen more 3-star commits - and fewer 2-star guys - to improve to grade B recruiting class.

Now we land a #80+ class and it's "decent"...

So, what's changed?

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:46 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T20:29:47-06:00

I don't pay too much attention to the #83 ranking. The 247sports site shows that we have 17 commits (we have 22) and the total points upon which the rankings are formulated favor teams with more commits. Rivals.com currently has us at #91...

We landed some potential playmakers - Romney, Finau, Holker, Nasilai, Alfrey, Conner and Wilson...and some intriguing projects - Opara, Miskela, Moore, Jones (the aussie rules punter - who happens to be the *heaviest* recruit signed today)...we also added 5 solid Olinemen.

Overall - decent. Lacks any "star" power, but decent.

But, the recruiting hype largely ignores a significant part of the team - transfers. In 2018, we have key contributors that were never part of a BYU recruiting class: Tolutau, Canada, T. Hoge, Empey, Tei-Kirby.

See also - Max Hall, Jordan Leslie, Uona Keveinga, Hebron Fangupo, Kelly Poppinga, Andrew Rich, Riley Nelson, etc.

And, some of BYU's highly-touted recruits didn't pan out like expected, for various reasons - Jake Heaps, Jason Munns, Ben Olson, Brayden Kearsley, Austin Holt, Troy Hinds, etc.

And, don't forget that some players return from missions this year, like Tooley, Hall, Gunther, Livai, and Southam.

Plus, there have been many preferred walkon "commits" that have had successful careers at BYU in the past. I fully expect several of these guys to have solid careers and to contribute to BYU football.

The BYU system doesn't work like the video game recruiting plan we want.

Perfectly said, most forget about all the transfers last year that had to sit out the year. On paper it's not what we all would like to see but let's see what they are like in 3 years.

Statistics: Posted by a1247 — Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:29 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T20:08:49-06:00

"I think people forget that only five players from Kalani's 1st class (46th ranked class) have played a down. Most of the kids from that class are in the program in 2018." @Mitch_Harper

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:08 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T18:10:29-06:00

Can we stop whining about how Sitake is no Bronco already?

Sure. I'll just keep complaining he's an inept coach who is falling farther and farther short of the standard.

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:10 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T18:07:41-06:00

It is obvious that people are using this to validate their feelings about Sitake one way or the other. If people fully believe all the hype or hate, they are likely to be off one way or the other. Can we stop whining about how Sitake is no Bronco already? haha

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T17:58:52-06:00

I guess we will see how the team does this year. I am in "wait and see" mode. so far, other than getting bailed out by Taysom and Jamaal, I am not impressed with Sitake as a head coach. We were sold that he would be a master recruiter, thus far that has been a myth. We were told that Bronco hated recruiting and that recruiting suffered under him because of it, so far that has been a myth. I hope we win more than 4 games this year.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:58 pm

Re: BYU's 2018 Recruiting Class

2018-02-07T17:53:33-06:00

I'm happy we got Holker. And we got some transfers ready to step in.

Statistics: Posted by scott715 — Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:53 pm