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Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-18T21:36:02-06:00

And BYU's HC probably makes less than 1 million. BYU needs to step up or they/we are going to continue to get left behind.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:36 pm

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-18T11:37:44-06:00

UCF is the People's Champ, Bama is the Big Money champ.

I agree with this. USA Today reports that Saban will receive a $4 million signing bonus which brings his total to $11.125 million this year! I don't know what the UCF coach makes but it can't be close to that. The gap between college football and pro football is narrowing.
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Scott Frost is making much more now that he jumped ship from UCF to Nebraska. Seven years, $35 million. That's not 11 million, but he hasn't won five national championships at Nebraska yet, either. I surely wouldn't turn my nose up at $5 million, which is over double his previous salary of $2 Million a year.

Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:37 am

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-18T09:38:01-06:00

In 2016, the highest paid NFL coach made $8 million salary. For the top jobs in college football, I don't think there is much of a gap at all. Which makes sense on one hand, because those institutions don't want to lose their coaches to the NFL, but is a problem on the other hand. NFL players and coaches can legally make millions of dollars, but in college, it's just the coaches. And on top of that not all schools can really afford to shell out that kind of money.

In fact, I'd say only a handful of universities can afford to pay $8M+ for coaches, that list is probably around 10%.

Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:38 am

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-18T05:51:53-06:00

In 2016, the highest paid NFL coach made $8 million salary. For the top jobs in college football, I don't think there is much of a gap at all. Which makes sense on one hand, because those institutions don't want to lose their coaches to the NFL, but is a problem on the other hand. NFL players and coaches can legally make millions of dollars, but in college, it's just the coaches. And on top of that not all schools can really afford to shell out that kind of money.

Statistics: Posted by Jarhead — Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:51 am

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-17T18:21:52-06:00

UCF is the People's Champ, Bama is the Big Money champ.
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I agree with this. USA Today reports that Saban will receive a $4 million signing bonus which brings his total to $11.125 million this year! I don't know what the UCF coach makes but it can't be close to that. The gap between college football and pro football is narrowing.

Statistics: Posted by nuk13 — Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:21 pm

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-17T17:02:40-06:00

I'd be happy with letting the top non P5 team playing the top P5 team not playing in a CCG during the week of conf championships. That way Alabama and ohio can't get into the playoffs while sitting on their butts for a week.

If UCF beat Alabama that week instead of Memphis they wouldn't have been left out.

Statistics: Posted by jvquarterback — Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:02 pm

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-11T15:01:12-06:00

I would actually love to see a CFP that supplants the current CCG system. One way to actually get P5 buy-in might be to give each P5 DIVISIONAL winner an autobid to the playoff field. And, you could still use the CCG venues for the quarterfinals - instead of CONFERENCE championship games, they become Regional championship - North, South, East, West - or something like that.

Round 1 held the first weekend in December at campus sites, with the top-4 divisions winners getting an automatic pass to the Regional championship.

Round 2 is held the following week at the CCG/Regional championship venues. Round 1 winners v. the top-4 division winners (who got a Round 1 Bye)

Then, you simply spill into the current CFP semifinals and NY6 system.

Here's what 2017 could have looked like:

EAST REGIONAL (Atlanta)
(9) Alabama (wild card) at (8)USC (PAC South) on Dec. 2
Winner plays v. (1)Clemson (ACC Atlantic) in Atlanta on Dec. 9

SOUTH REGIONAL (Arlington, TX)
(10)TCU (B12 South) at (7)Ohio St. (B1G East) on Dec. 2
Winner plays v. (2)Auburn (SEC West) in Arlington on Dec. 9

WEST REGIONAL (Santa Clara, CA)
(11)Stanford (PAC North) at (6)Miami (ACC Coastal) on Dec. 2
Winner plays v. (3)Oklahoma (B12 North) in Santa Clara on Dec. 9

NORTH REGIONAL (Indianapolis, IN)
(12)UCF (G5) at (5)Georgia (SEC East) on Dec. 2
Winner plays v. (4)Wisconsin (B1G West) in Indianapolis on Dec. 9

CFP SEMIFINALS
Regional Championship Winners meet in Rose and Sugar Bowls on January 1.

CFP NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Semifinals Winners meet in National Championship game in Atlanta, Georgia on January 8.

When compared to the status quo, it only requires one additional game for 4 teams (those that win Round 1).

*Editorial license to pick Round 1 and 2 winners.
EAST: Alabama beats USC in Los Angeles, and then beats Clemson in Atlanta.
SOUTH: Ohio St. beats TCU in Columbus, and then beats Auburn in Arlington.
WEST: Miami beats Stanford in Miami, but Oklahoma beats Miami in Santa Clara.
NORTH: Georgia beats UCF in Athens, and then beats Wisconsin in Indianapolis.

Sugar Bowl = (3)Oklahoma (WEST) v. (9)Alabama (EAST)
Rose Bowl = (5)Georgia (NORTH) v. (7)Ohio St. (SOUTH)

CONSOLATION NY6 BOWLS
PEACH: Auburn v. Miami
FIESTA: Stanford v. UCF
COTTON: USC v. TCU
ORANGE: Clemson v. Wisconsin

Statistics: Posted by YNot — Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:01 pm

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-11T14:29:42-06:00

If you remove conference championship games, the 8-team CFP field (with autobids for P5 champs plus top G5), would have looked liked this:

(1)Clemson(ACC)
(2)Auburn(SEC)
(3)Oklahoma(B12)
(4)Wisconsin(B1G)
(5)Alabama (wild card)
(6)Georgia (wild card)
(7)USC(PAC)
(8)UCF(G5)

#7 Miami and #8 Ohio St. (based on actual Week 14 CFP rankings) are supplanted by #10 USC and #14 UCF because of the autobids.

Note, that Auburn and Wisconsin are in the top 4 because they would not have played Georgia or Ohio St. in their respective CCGs.

So, #7 Miami, #8 Ohio St., #11 TCU and #12 Stanford do not get a shot at their conference championships -
or the CFP - because of the elimination of the CCGs - which is why this would never happen....along with the fact that the CCGs get great TV ratings and good attendance and make a ton of money.

Statistics: Posted by YNot — Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:29 pm

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-11T12:16:55-06:00

This just supports an 8 team playoff. All P5 champs get in, highest ranked G5, and two at large. Replace two of the bowl games with the playoff games and it would only take a week longer to do.

That would have made this year as follows:

Georgia
Clemson
USC
Oklahoma
Ohio
Alabama
Wisconsin
UCF

I agree with this solution as well. With one caveat. You probably have to get rid of conference championship games to make it happen because none of the P5 wants to add any more games to the schedule. But lets be honest. The Pac 10 did without conference championship games for years. You really don't need a conference championship game anyway, since how teams played in conference as opposed to their total body of work has no bearing on the playoff. So, instead, they should just declare the conference champion based on the record up to that point (12 games--use conference games as a tie breaker if you want), and then you begin the playoff immediately with 5 P5 champs, the highest ranked non-P5 not named notre dame, and two at larges. I don't think the P5s would put up a fuss about 1 seat of automatic inclusion. But, unless we have a UCF every year for the next several years until the current playoff system expires, I don't see automatic inclusion happening. They'll probably just say top 8 and keep the highest non-P5 outside of 8 like they did with UCF all year. Personally I would have liked to see UCF in the playoff. I don't think they have the depth to win three games in a row against top talent, but I think they could have one at least one of them.

Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:16 pm

Re: UCF as National Champs

2018-01-11T09:26:25-06:00

This just supports an 8 team playoff. All P5 champs get in, highest ranked G5, and two at large. Replace two of the bowl games with the playoff games and it would only take a week longer to do.

That would have made this year as follows:

Georgia
Clemson
USC
Oklahoma
Ohio
Alabama
Wisconsin
UCF

Statistics: Posted by UCChris — Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:26 am