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Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-27T10:32:47-06:00

I would take a whole team of Brandon Ogletree's over what we had last year.
I think what you would get is maybe a Brandon Ogletree and a bunch of guys who show that Ogletree is a standout for his size. If Ogletree's were available everywhere, he wouldn't be a standout.
See this is where you misunderstand my point. Ogletree was what he was because of his heart and toughness. I would take a whole team of him over what we had last year.

Biggest, most physical specimen on my basketball team (6'8" and chiseled 220 lbs) in high school couldn't rebound, couldn't jump, didn't know what to do when he had the ball, couldn't get his feet out of his own way, if he scored it was a mistake.
But, the coaches kept him on the team because of his potential and his size.
I have to agree that if a dude has talent (ogletree/pau'u) and are undersized.... Let Rudy play.
A bunch of prototypical NFL sized dudes means nothing if they have no talent or heart.

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:32 am

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-27T08:35:17-06:00

I would take a whole team of Brandon Ogletree's over what we had last year.
I think what you would get is maybe a Brandon Ogletree and a bunch of guys who show that Ogletree is a standout for his size. If Ogletree's were available everywhere, he wouldn't be a standout.

See this is where you misunderstand my point. Ogletree was what he was because of his heart and toughness. I would take a whole team of him over what we had last year.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:35 am

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-27T07:44:40-06:00

I would take a whole team of Brandon Ogletree's over what we had last year.

I think what you would get is maybe a Brandon Ogletree and a bunch of guys who show that Ogletree is a standout for his size. If Ogletree's were available everywhere, he wouldn't be a standout.

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:44 am

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-26T18:01:25-06:00

Wasn't Brandon Ogletree and undersized player from Texas? He turned out Ok I though.
Well, you are right. Maybe we should be going with the Texas all-under 6' squad. Nothing screams success like "undersized".

I would take a whole team of Brandon Ogletree's over what we had last year.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:01 pm

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-26T12:46:55-06:00

I don't think the fact that Kalani and crew are losing so many undersized decommits is proof that his reputation as a master recruiter is overrated, it's the fact that he and staff originally identified, recruited, and committed these kids. Then they can't even keep them.

It would be one thing if the 2 star kids were being replaced by 4 star kids, but I'm not seeing that happen and it also says something about a staff that gets commits from 2 star kids and because they didn't recruit the 4 star kids to begin with.

Just seems like the 3 recruiting classes Kalani has had so far have been not very good.

Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:46 pm

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-26T12:17:14-06:00

Wasn't Brandon Ogletree and undersized player from Texas? He turned out Ok I though.

Well, you are right. Maybe we should be going with the Texas all-under 6' squad. Nothing screams success like "undersized".

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:17 pm

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-26T10:57:07-06:00

Wasn't Brandon Ogletree and undersized player from Texas? He turned out Ok I though.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:57 am

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-26T10:55:34-06:00

Speculation on the interwebs is that it may be a pulled offer. Several of the recent decommits are undersized players out of Texas recruited by Detmer (RB Joshua Oglesby, 5' 7" 180 and WR Jaren Mitchell, 5' 10" 175). Oglesby was 2*, Mitchell 3*. Dinkelmann isn't undersized and is 3*--but they also have a bunch of QBs on scholarship for the foreseeable future--especially after adding Stacy Conner and Zach Wilson who are both early enrollees who are not planning on a mission.
Could it be that the new coaching staff is looking at these guys and trying to spend the scholarships on the players that fit what they are looking for most and fit the team needs for the offense they want to run? If so, work it out now before you get them in your program for 4 years. People make it sound like these are huge losses because the coaching staff are idiots. Sounds more to me like they are managing their recruiting class. They had more guys on the list than they had room for--and actually still do.
See Loyal Cougars' recriuting spreadsheet.

I will believe this as soon as I start seeing these decommits replaced with higher quality recruits. Until then, they are big losses because of incompetent coaching. As far as the "master recruiter" thing. That has been debunked as a myth. Kalani hasn't recruited any better than Bronco. I know the comment was TIC though.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:55 am

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-24T22:20:41-06:00

We need WRs.

I have no idea how good the guy is, but if he's fast and has half way descent hands, he's better than anyone we currently have on the roster.

Statistics: Posted by Gunk — Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:20 pm

Re: Another decommit, Jaren Mitchell, WR

2017-12-24T19:49:51-06:00

Speculation on the interwebs is that it may be a pulled offer. Several of the recent decommits are undersized players out of Texas recruited by Detmer (RB Joshua Oglesby, 5' 7" 180 and WR Jaren Mitchell, 5' 10" 175). Oglesby was 2*, Mitchell 3*. Dinkelmann isn't undersized and is 3*--but they also have a bunch of QBs on scholarship for the foreseeable future--especially after adding Stacy Conner and Zach Wilson who are both early enrollees who are not planning on a mission.
Could it be that the new coaching staff is looking at these guys and trying to spend the scholarships on the players that fit what they are looking for most and fit the team needs for the offense they want to run? If so, work it out now before you get them in your program for 4 years. People make it sound like these are huge losses because the coaching staff are idiots. Sounds more to me like they are managing their recruiting class. They had more guys on the list than they had room for--and actually still do.
See Loyal Cougars' recriuting spreadsheet.

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:49 pm