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Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T14:05:32-06:00

I really hope Ty stays on staff. I think we need him as QB coach. Let a new offensive coordinator overhaul the rest.
I don't remember which back-up QB said they were on the headsets with Ty every game. He would call the play, and then tell the guys on the headsets which route would be open. The QB said Ty was right every time.

The problem is institutional with the football program right now ... Ty was not the problem.
I thought that it was the other way around - that it was Wilstead who was identifying who would be open on the headsets

Now I"m going to have to try to find it. But I think you are right that it was Wilstead, I'm just also confident that he was talking about Ty. I'll see what I can find.

Statistics: Posted by mtnradio — Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:05 pm

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T14:00:23-06:00

I really hope Ty stays on staff. I think we need him as QB coach. Let a new offensive coordinator overhaul the rest.
I don't remember which back-up QB said they were on the headsets with Ty every game. He would call the play, and then tell the guys on the headsets which route would be open. The QB said Ty was right every time.

The problem is institutional with the football program right now ... Ty was not the problem.

I thought that it was the other way around - that it was Wilstead who was identifying who would be open on the headsets

Statistics: Posted by ABYUFAN — Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:00 pm

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T13:57:20-06:00

Statistically, Ty was the biggest problem.

But yes, the team culture seems to be an even bigger problem, and this doesn't fix that. Doesn't necessarily hurt it either, though.

Statistics: Posted by Mars — Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:57 pm

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T12:14:46-06:00

I really hope Ty stays on staff. I think we need him as QB coach. Let a new offensive coordinator overhaul the rest.

I don't remember which back-up QB said they were on the headsets with Ty every game. He would call the play, and then tell the guys on the headsets which route would be open. The QB said Ty was right every time.

The problem is institutional with the football program right now ... Ty was not the problem.

Statistics: Posted by mtnradio — Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:14 pm

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T11:08:46-06:00

I really hope Ty stays on staff. I think we need him as QB coach. Let a new offensive coordinator overhaul the rest.

The overall state of the program and the injuries are more to blame than anything else. I think Ty's personal actions are much less the issue than the overall structure he worked in this season.

As for the next steps, I say bring in an outsider. It will look bad on Kalani if he brings in another good ol boy.

This article has an interesting take on the list of potential candidates:
https://lawlessrepublic.com/2017/11/28/ ... t-cougars/

Can we get the crazy pirate Mike Leach to bring the air raid to Provo? If players aren't doing film study, or lax, or whatever, he could just lock them in a closet.

Statistics: Posted by TulaneVandyRiceCoug — Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:08 am

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T10:42:52-06:00

I still think Detmer was in over is head. But the problems that Sitake has caused is 100 times worse...

I've said it before. The numbers speak for themselves, Ty's offense was a failure but IMO there are so many problems with this team that a new Ocoordinator isn't the answer. Unless they hire a real Hard A$$ as the Ocooordinator to bring some discipline then we are going to see a repeat of this year next year.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:42 am

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T10:25:04-06:00

I still think Detmer was in over is head. But the problems that Sitake has caused is 100 times worse...

Statistics: Posted by byufan4ever — Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:25 am

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T10:24:37-06:00

Just remember that Kalani Sitake was mentored by Kyle Whittingham, a guy who nearly every season scapegoats his OC who he handicaps and hamstrings all season long.

Andy Ludwig
Brian Johnson
Norm Chow
Dave Schramm
Dave Christensen
Dennis Erickson
Aaron Roderick
Jim Harding
Troy Taylor (soon)

Those are the OC's Kyle Whittingham has cycled through in his 12 seasons -- his OCs average less than one and a half seasons.

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:24 am

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T09:07:51-06:00

Given the post about the 10 things wrong at BYU Football right now, and watching what is going on, I am becoming a believer that the post is accurate. I raise that because it is impossible to run Detmer's offense effectively when those 10 things are going on. The team must be intelligent (film sessions), they must be strong and healthy (S&C), it requires a high level of execution (practice time and consistency) ... and so on. The more I am hearing about the "behind-the-scenes" at BYU Football, the more I believe the problem is not, and never was, Ty Detmer ... rather it lies in the "player-coach" mentality and laxity that comes from above.

I had started to believe that Ty may have been in over his head ... but not any more. It was the structure around him. To succeed with his program you need dedication and hard work ... not a good-ol-boy frat-boy mind-set.

Now with what is going on with Pau'u ... sheesh! This program is going the wrong way and they just poured gasoline on the dumpster fire that we've called BYU Football.

It will take years to recover ... or a strong new head coach. I hear Detmer may be looking for a job.

Statistics: Posted by mtnradio — Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:07 am

Re: Ty No Longer OC

2017-11-28T01:11:29-06:00

Still better than keeping them.

Statistics: Posted by Mars — Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:11 am