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Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-16T19:56:46-06:00

I like your analysis. I still think the main problem with this offense are the running backs. This offense is designed to establish a run and then beat you with a pass. When the Run doesn't get established, and then we turn to pass to try to make up a deficit, the weakness of both the receiving Corps and the running backs has been highlighted, but in this offense it starts with the running backs

Statistics: Posted by mtnradio — Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:56 pm

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-16T09:34:46-06:00

Their second RB has been afraid of contact and has tunnel vision as bad as Tanner. The holes have been there and Ula is good at finding them. It's an intangible ability for a RB just as it is for a QB.
But let's face it, there is ample evidence of multiple, glaring weaknesses on this offense. Which comes first? Which is worst? Sort of doesn't matter. It's a compound in one. It's MUBAR. It's messed up beyond all recognition.

Average to poor Jr QB? check. What if he were as good as we hoped/thought? We aren't 1-6.
RBs with their problems as listed? Check. Not a strong option on the squad. What if Ula could carry it 20x in a game and not fumble? Are we 1-6? Nope.
WRS are soft, not so fast, and certainly not sure handed. If we had Hoffman, would we be 1-6? Nope.
OC scheme. Is it outdated? Too complicated? Probably both. If we had a Taysom and Jamal, would the scheme change enough to win? Yep. Proved last year. It was even working with Beau, or so it seemed. So, Ty can adapt. But to what this year?
Oline. Not world beaters, but the most consistent and best performing unit on this O. Which, granted, ain't saying much.
TE shows a glimmer of hope, but all defenses have to do is key in on one weapon bc everyone else is soft.
So, which position group to fix? Has to start with QB! RB and WRs.

Statistics: Posted by Cougs_Rule — Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:34 am

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-15T22:20:37-06:00

Hard to run when your Oline can't block, you only have two talented RBs, the first one is out of shape and fumble-prone, and the second the coaches hate and refuse to play.

Statistics: Posted by Mars — Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:20 pm

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-15T21:31:01-06:00

I would improve the running game 88 yards a game wont get it done if we were averaging 200 yards a game rushing we probably only have a couple losses right now. An improved passing game would also come as a result.

Statistics: Posted by screamineagle2 — Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:31 pm

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-13T11:00:29-06:00

I think Ty's comments were also very telling to where he's at as a coach. Yes, he's a brilliant offensive mind, but everything he knows about offense is 25 years old and the game has evolved since then. He hasn't kept up on offenses over the years and it shows. Now, he needs to, he can still run a pro style offense, but he needs a modern pro style offense, not an easily defended pro style offense from 1990.

Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:00 am

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-13T10:46:27-06:00

Ty Detmer talked this week about having to learn some spread offense principles on the fly to try to utilize the talent that we have. I think this was probably a direct reference to Mangum. I think it's good to adapt your offense to your talent, but it's probably too little too late and will not fix our issues.

Statistics: Posted by Jarhead — Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:46 am

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-13T10:43:58-06:00

I wonder now what would have been if Hoge wasn't injured. He looked OK against the Dairy Utes until the injury. We could have won that game.

Would Hoge have made a difference against BSU?

I wasn't a believer in Hoge, but I was impressed with his Utah State performance. I think we would have had a legitimate chance against BSU if he had played.

Statistics: Posted by Jarhead — Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:43 am

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-13T10:04:43-06:00

I wonder now what would have been if Hoge wasn't injured. He looked OK against the Dairy Utes until the injury. We could have won that game.

Would Hoge have made a difference against BSU?

Statistics: Posted by vancouvercougar — Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:04 am

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-13T09:10:27-06:00

This is the danger of a 4* QB who is the Elite 11 MVP in this system.

Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:10 am

Re: If you could fix one position group...

2017-10-13T08:45:48-06:00

After Mangum's freshman season, I thought the BYU world was on an upward trajectory. I was really pumped to see what Ty could do with Mangum.

Tanner just isn't getting it done. Yes the receivers are marshmallows. Yes we are playing a freshman at TE, and a pre-season TE is out with injury. Yes we are playing a freshman as the main RB now.

But Tanner has had open receivers that he simply doesn't see. My vote here is QB

Statistics: Posted by vancouvercougar — Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:45 am