CougarCorner This is the Place, for Cougar Fans! 2018-07-12T20:30:53-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/app.php/feed/topic/20939 2018-07-12T20:30:53-06:00 2018-07-12T20:30:53-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=245012#p245012 <![CDATA[Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games]]>

2) It's complete hearsay, but a family friend of ours has some high-up connections within Church leadership. Rumor is there are a "bunch" of "big" changes in the works and the presidency is just waiting for when the new prophet is called.
I know you're just the messenger but these kind of rumors have been around for decades. I don't think we'll see "a bunch" of anything (because we don't need to) and I don't see the purpose in waiting for a new prophet even if there was.
Told you.
I thought you were talking about doctrinal changes which I said was/is not going to happen. Not home teaching being changed to ministering or the high priests being combined with the rest of the priesthood.

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I am currently in a bishopric in Utah.

When I was called in August, I asked the stake president if I needed to lose the beard. He told me he knew of no such guidelines, but if a member of the Twelve were to chime in, they would probably recommend shaving daily.

I shaved for two weeks, and have not since, and the only mention that has been made of it since has come from bearded brethren who are relieved to see a beard on the stand.

Our bishop Is now also sprouting his beard.

I should also acknowledge that this softening seems to be a recent course-change. A bearded friend in the neighborhood was called to a bishopric 4 years ago and, without him asking as I did, the same Stake President at that time told him that as part of the calling he would be expected to be clean shaven on Sundays. 4 years later I had a completely different experience as far as the shaving expectations went.
A dear family member was called to be a Bishop. He had a beard and was not asked to shave and didn’t. And this was 25 years ago. He said I guess since you can go to the Temple with a beard you can be a Bishop with a beard. He later shaved not because he was asked but it got too itchy.....

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2018-04-04T23:51:16-06:00 2018-04-04T23:51:16-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=244020#p244020 <![CDATA[Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games]]> At the temple this last week in Vernal, one of the workers had some chops that would put john taylor to shame.Image

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I suspect we'll continue to see such "softening" over the next few years with Nelson in.

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When I was called in August, I asked the stake president if I needed to lose the beard. He told me he knew of no such guidelines, but if a member of the Twelve were to chime in, they would probably recommend shaving daily.

I shaved for two weeks, and have not since, and the only mention that has been made of it since has come from bearded brethren who are relieved to see a beard on the stand.

Our bishop Is now also sprouting his beard.

I should also acknowledge that this softening seems to be a recent course-change. A bearded friend in the neighborhood was called to a bishopric 4 years ago and, without him asking as I did, the same Stake President at that time told him that as part of the calling he would be expected to be clean shaven on Sundays. 4 years later I had a completely different experience as far as the shaving expectations went.

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2018-04-02T09:02:32-06:00 2018-04-02T09:02:32-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=243975#p243975 <![CDATA[Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games]]>
I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .
I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.
I thought they were joking. So if someone has a beard they really can't be a temple worker?
Correct. If you have a beard you can not be a temple worker, even though Jesus and God are clearly depicted as having beards.

And, if you are in a bishopric or stake presidency and have a beard you will more than likely be asked to shave it.
I don't have a ton of experience in the "Beard policy" area but I believe that sometimes it is overstated. In Fresno the Bishop of the YSA ward has a beard and has had one for years. I wonder who is supposed to have asked him to shave it.

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2) It's complete hearsay, but a family friend of ours has some high-up connections within Church leadership. Rumor is there are a "bunch" of "big" changes in the works and the presidency is just waiting for when the new prophet is called.
I know you're just the messenger but these kind of rumors have been around for decades. I don't think we'll see "a bunch" of anything (because we don't need to) and I don't see the purpose in waiting for a new prophet even if there was.
Told you.

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2017-09-29T23:11:10-06:00 2017-09-29T23:11:10-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=238968#p238968 <![CDATA[Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games]]>
I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .
I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.
I thought they were joking. So if someone has a beard they really can't be a temple worker?
Correct. If you have a beard you can not be a temple worker, even though Jesus and God are clearly depicted as having beards.

And, if you are in a bishopric or stake presidency and have a beard you will more than likely be asked to shave it.
For me, it really does not eternally matter. I don't understand why. But I don't want to let my failure to understand drive a wedge between me and the Church. I will put this one on a shelf and (hopefully) ride it out.

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I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .
I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.
I thought they were joking. So if someone has a beard they really can't be a temple worker?
Correct. If you have a beard you can not be a temple worker, even though Jesus and God are clearly depicted as having beards.

And, if you are in a bishopric or stake presidency and have a beard you will more than likely be asked to shave it.

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2017-09-29T14:53:40-06:00 2017-09-29T14:53:40-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=238902#p238902 <![CDATA[Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games]]>
I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .
I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.
I thought they were joking. So if someone has a beard they really can't be a temple worker?
I can't speak to whether or not there are ever exceptions allowed, but it's in the handbook that temple workers must be clean shaven.

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