This is my prediction with Rose. We saw it with Bronco, I'm seeing it with Real Salt Lake right now. The same issues are present multiple years in a row with nothing changing. They say the right things. They identify the problems, but they don't seem to be able to fix the problem.

The players don't seem to enjoy playing. And a change is needed. But administration and ownership doesn't want to make rash decisions and think the good coach can fix things if they are just given one more shot. After all,they deserve one more shot after all the good years they produced.

But it's a fool's errand. They won't change. Things won't change. And the hope that things will change will evaporate and another middling season will ensue.

Better to make the change a year too early than a year too late.

My problem was pairing Rose's best-ever recruiting with his worst season in about 10 years. On top of that was continuing to lose players, guys like Emery showing little improvement over 2 years (let alone in-season), the lack of defense (at the perimeter especially), poor shot selection completely unopposed by coaching, and the lack of good passing in set offensive schemes. Then add in losses like the home loss to UVU, and how that game was lost, the inability to win at lowly Santa Clara, the parade of losses to sub-200 rpi teams, and losing 3 in a row to St. Mary's with the final loss by 31 points, and the home-court NIT blowout L was an ugly cherry on an unappetizing sundae.

I would be perfectly fine with Coach Rose deciding to serve a mission or to retire for health reasons. I see no reason that Holmoe shouldn't be looking long and hard at whether Rose should be back next year.

I don't think his seat is or should be that hot yet.

I think it should be uncomfortably warm, but I think on a cumulative basis Rose has earned another year to right the ship.

Philosophically I agree with you. Unfortunately I think that means another year of suffering.

I'd objectively counter that Rose's entire body of work disagrees. He's a great coach. I'm on board with him staying as long as he wants and has the desire.

It was a young team, little experience playing at this level together, and the injury bug bit hard and often. You could easily say that this BYU team exceeded expectations. remember, BYU was positioned to be 3rd in conference. They met expectations this year.

I think the biggest problem this year was the high sky expectations that the LP3 and their lofty recruiting numbers were magically going to turn BYU into a final four type team. Give it 2 years and MAYBE that will be the case. I didn't like the results of some of the games, but overall, I thought BYU had a decent season holding their ground. Definitely not as bad as it could have been.

FWIW I agree with you Dave Rose is on no hotter of a seat this year than Randy Bennett should have been on last year. Similar tenure, similar results, in the same conference. Some will say BYU is not St. Mary's - and they're right. St. Mary's is in a better location recruit wise, has no similar honor code issues, so they have different challenges than BYU so they are not exactly equals, but hey they're not a bad comparison. Who do we replace Rose with? Who do we bring in that would've Landed Frank Jackson or Jabari Parker? Who could've had a crystal ball and kept bench player from leaving because those bench players saw people being recruited in front of them?

Who do we bring in that would have no problem losing Mr. Triple Double Kyle Collinsworth to graduation, Chase Fischer to Graduation, Zach Seljes to a mission, Jordan Chatman to the crazy people at the Law school, Kyle Davis to injury and Jakob Hartsock to not wanting to play basketball anymore. If anything, this was a spectacular year based on what we lost, and who was injured this year. People seem to take the loss to UVU as a sign that Rose cannot coach, because we had no business not winning and our beating Gonzaga as a sign that Rose cannot coach because we should always be able to beat the number one team in the nation.

I would be perfectly fine with Coach Rose deciding to serve a mission or to retire for health reasons. I see no reason that Holmoe shouldn't be looking long and hard at whether Rose should be back next year.

I don't think his seat is or should be that hot yet.

I think it should be uncomfortably warm, but I think on a cumulative basis Rose has earned another year to right the ship.

Philosophically I agree with you. Unfortunately I think that means another year of suffering.

I'd objectively counter that Rose's entire body of work disagrees. He's a great coach. I'm on board with him staying as long as he wants and has the desire.

It was a young team, little experience playing at this level together, and the injury bug bit hard and often. You could easily say that this BYU team exceeded expectations. remember, BYU was positioned to be 3rd in conference. They met expectations this year.

I think the biggest problem this year was the high sky expectations that the LP3 and their lofty recruiting numbers were magically going to turn BYU into a final four type team. Give it 2 years and MAYBE that will be the case. I didn't like the results of some of the games, but overall, I thought BYU had a decent season holding their ground. Definitely not as bad as it could have been.

I would be perfectly fine with Coach Rose deciding to serve a mission or to retire for health reasons. I see no reason that Holmoe shouldn't be looking long and hard at whether Rose should be back next year.

I don't think his seat is or should be that hot yet.

I think it should be uncomfortably warm, but I think on a cumulative basis Rose has earned another year to right the ship.

Philosophically I agree with you. Unfortunately I think that means another year of suffering.

I would be perfectly fine with Coach Rose deciding to serve a mission or to retire for health reasons. I see no reason that Holmoe shouldn't be looking long and hard at whether Rose should be back next year.

I don't think his seat is or should be that hot yet.

I think it should be uncomfortably warm, but I think on a cumulative basis Rose has earned another year to right the ship.

I would be perfectly fine with Coach Rose deciding to serve a mission or to retire for health reasons. I see no reason that Holmoe shouldn't be looking long and hard at whether Rose should be back next year.