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Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-08T02:18:47-06:00

You know, I am in here stirring some banter for our upcoming game this week with you guys but that aside, I am sincerely sorry to hear of these injuries to your QBs.

You know Oregon (not OS) is having the same issues with their QBs running the spread option! The QBs pay the price in this sort of scheme! But damn..., when it works it's a thing of beauty to watch as a fan!

"GO BEAVS"!

Statistics: Posted by TheLocust — Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:18 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-08T02:06:54-06:00

Good article by Wrubell below. Here is an excerpt...

Playing five straight seasons with QBs who had a throw-first mandate, Mendenhall's Cougars went 49-15; the last three of those seasons resulted in a 32-7 record. BYU is now in its third season with a two-QB rotation, running QBs, freshman QBs, or some combination thereof; a 21-11 record has been the result.

Riley Nelson, when healthy, is a valuable weapon. Taysom Hill, given health and a little more experience, can be spectacular. Both players' ability to maximize their collegiate potential may come down to whether the latest definition of a "BYU quarterback" is actually viable, over the long term.

This is not to say that the Cougars cannot or should not take occasional advantage of gifted QBs' athleticism, strength and speed. However, the last two and a half seasons seem to suggest that like BYU's passing roots, the quarterbacks' feet may need to be more firmly planted in the backfield.

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Statistics: Posted by KingCoug — Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:06 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T16:39:31-06:00

Yes, but.....
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Hopefully, coaches finally now "have learned with Rileys [injury]" and nw Taysoms season ending injury that ou cannot qb draw, run with impunity. Sad thing is if Riley's key to. Offensive efficiency and success is taken away, will he and the O be even easier to stop?

Statistics: Posted by Cougs_Rule — Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:39 pm

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T12:45:13-06:00

if our only steady way to move the ball against even mediocre teams is to run options and QB draws all game long, then it's probably a blessing in disguise to have this happen at the end of a game, because the QB getting injured is inevitable and it could have happened just as easily at the beginning of the next game. at least now the offense has a week to prepare a different QB.

or maybe doman will just use this week to come up with new QB running plays.

Statistics: Posted by SHIZ — Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:45 pm

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T11:43:54-06:00

I thought that at the point Hill injured himself we still needed a first down to run out the clock. a pass would be dangerous--2 bad things can happen and the clock stops without a USU timeout. To run it when we should be tatking a knee is stupid, but we weren't there yet.
Nope. It was definitely unnecessary. There was 1:14 left and USU had only one timeout. We had just got a first down on the previous play. I was bugged at the time that we were risking a fumble or injury. If Taysom is done for the year, and it appears that he is, I am going to be pissed.

I feel the same way. I will be angry and very annoyed.
Who the hell runs your QB when bleeding the clock??? Even if he is a good runner and a tough kid.
Throw in the fact that our "starter" is already injured... just REALLY stupid.

Maybe he was protecting our skinny legged RB since that starter was also out.

Very unfortunate. I am too lazy to do the take a knee math. But if take a knee three times would have bled the clock - should have bled it.

I hope Doman, or Hill who was doing a lot of audibiling, weren't trying to appease the fans certain to be whining about the lack of points.

I bet our field goal kicker and OL are glad to be out from under the spotlight.

Hill, Anae - not Jaime and Robert - Taysom and Famika - really tough breaks - young players making an impact.

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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:43 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T11:20:30-06:00

On another side note, we may lose Ross to a transfer at the end of the season too. He's tired of not getting thrown to and he is trying to improve enough to get a chance in the NFL and a glorified downfield run blocker is not getting him where he wants to get.

If Apo is serious about making it to the NFL, he needs to do more with the chances he is given.

Statistics: Posted by Devbo — Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:20 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T11:13:10-06:00

I thought that at the point Hill injured himself we still needed a first down to run out the clock. a pass would be dangerous--2 bad things can happen and the clock stops without a USU timeout. To run it when we should be tatking a knee is stupid, but we weren't there yet.
Nope. It was definitely unnecessary. There was 1:14 left and USU had only one timeout. We had just got a first down on the previous play. I was bugged at the time that we were risking a fumble or injury. If Taysom is done for the year, and it appears that he is, I am going to be pissed.

I feel the same way. I will be angry and very annoyed.
Who the hell runs your QB when bleeding the clock??? Even if he is a good runner and a tough kid.
Throw in the fact that our "starter" is already injured... just REALLY stupid.

I am not currently calling for his head, but he needs to improve and fast, but if T Hill is injured for the season on an unnecessary play, then it will be over for me. You don't put your qbs out there for injury like that. Absolute Bull Yewt!

Statistics: Posted by Brayden Green — Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:13 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T10:40:01-06:00

For what it's worth, and I know nothing about whatever injury it is Taysom may have suffered, he was never fully recovered from a cheap shot he took in HS after he kicked off at a game in Holt Arena. You can go find it by searching "Taysom Hill" at Youtube.com It's only about 14 seconds long. The coach who called for the hit was disciplined but I do not recall the extent. Anyway, he injured his knee at that point and it was hoped by his family and doctor that his mission time off would allow sufficient time to rehab. After getting thrown into action so soon this year he tweaked sometime in his first action this year. They knew he was going to need some offseason surgery to clean things up and repair it and hoped he would 'survive' this season with now extended play time without having to have season-ending surgery instead. Obviously he didn't make it. Whether it was Domans fault or his on the play call, it was really just a ticking time-bomb waiting to go off as to the surgery.

In my opinion, while I have been pleased with how he played and the progress he made in two starts, I would rather have seen Lark if for now other reason than because he had paid his dues.

On another side note, we may lose Ross to a transfer at the end of the season too. He's tired of not getting thrown to and he is trying to improve enough to get a chance in the NFL and a glorified downfield run blocker is not getting him where he wants to get.

Go Cougs!!!
J. Child
Ammon, ID

Statistics: Posted by AmmonCougar1 — Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:40 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T08:18:18-06:00

I haven't had a chance to read any of the press regarding this, but did anyone else notice the discussion Taysom and Coach Doman were having right after the play (during the time out)? It looked like the coach was scolding him. My assumption at the time was that he was telling him "What are you doing? Just take a knee!"

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Statistics: Posted by IowaCougar — Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:18 am

Re: Taysom Hill injured?

2012-10-07T07:58:14-06:00

He was holding/ massaging the outside of his knee. I think it is ACL. Then he was seen holding his helmet later in denial and horror probably from the Docs assessment that it was Season ending if later confirmed.

Statistics: Posted by Cougs_Rule — Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:58 am