CougarCorner This is the Place, for Cougar Fans! 2012-10-05T00:02:24-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/app.php/feed/topic/13266 2012-10-05T00:02:24-06:00 2012-10-05T00:02:24-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145443#p145443 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
I'd say that being the only tailback to break 100 yards in the last 17 games is a good start to "proving himself." Especially when you consider some of the junior high school teams that we have played in between now and then.

I judge people on the field based on what happens on the field. RN sucks unless against a poor defense. Alisa disappears in the same fashion. Hoffman can't get off a bump in press coverage from someone close to his size... that sort of thing. I know Williams is better than Alisa because I watch a lot of football, have played football, and I use my eyes and brain. I watched them run against the same competition, and Williams did much more with the same playcalls, against the same defenses.

You can't teach quick, and you can't teach moves and vision. He has all three. He will be fine. I haven't seen a runner as fast and good as him since Curtis Brown or Staley. Maybe young freshman Fui, before he started eating the "let's make you slow BYU diet." But Fui was north and south, and a punishing runner. Williams is different. He has moves, changes direction, waits for his blockers and then bursts. That will be the same types of things that he will do against good teams too. He'll just do it for a lot less yards before they get there and actually tackle. But I'll take 85-100 yards on 25 carries against a good defense all day. And he'll get it.
He may - unless he doesn't. I just prefer to wait and see them do it vs a good team before I proclaim greatness. Hawaii was no test and he had not done much prior to that.

I saw a few more impressive backs tonight at RES. but they were not freshmen.

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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:02 am


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2012-10-04T09:12:45-06:00 2012-10-04T09:12:45-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145289#p145289 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
is only 17
Which is hard to believe ..... what a great find for the Cougs. What talent. 8)

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2012-10-04T08:41:01-06:00 2012-10-04T08:41:01-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145285#p145285 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
I'd say that being the only tailback to break 100 yards in the last 17 games is a good start to "proving himself." Especially when you consider some of the junior high school teams that we have played in between now and then.
Amen. Only so much analysis can be had from so few games but Hill and Williams are doing some things that nobody else is and that is the reason to be excited. Running for 155 vs anybody is a great feat and we nearly had 2 get there.

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2012-10-04T09:37:01-06:00 2012-10-04T01:58:31-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145273#p145273 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
I judge people on the field based on what happens on the field. RN sucks unless against a poor defense. Alisa disappears in the same fashion. Hoffman can't get off a bump in press coverage from someone close to his size... that sort of thing. I know Williams is better than Alisa because I watch a lot of football, have played football, and I use my eyes and brain. I watched them run against the same competition, and Williams did much more with the same playcalls, against the same defenses.

You can't teach quick, and you can't teach moves and vision. He has all three. He will be fine. I haven't seen a runner as fast and good as him since Curtis Brown or Staley. Maybe young freshman Fui, before he started eating the "let's make you slow BYU diet." But Fui was north and south, and a punishing runner. Williams is different. He has moves, changes direction, waits for his blockers and then bursts. That will be the same types of things that he will do against good teams too. He'll just do it for a lot less yards before they get there and actually tackle. But I'll take 85-100 yards on 25 carries against a good defense all day. And he'll get it.

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2012-10-04T00:16:02-06:00 2012-10-04T00:16:02-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145267#p145267 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
runs better than Alisa.
ridiculous comment. Why do you feel the need to dog on so many players. Hard to live up to your standard I guess.

Isn't this the same Alisa that we all wanted to proclaim the second coming of Unga last year?

Not to take anything away from Williams. The guy has "it". I just don't know why everyone is suddenly hating on Alisa. He would have put up 100+ vs Hawaii most likely with the retooled O-line.
He does run better than Alisa. Not dogging. It is the truth.

You all proclaimed him to be the next Unga. I was the one saying that he disappeared against good teams. Which he did.

Williams is legit. Alisa is less legit. Pointing out facts isn't dogging.

Why do you always have to dog on people that make observances? I guess I just can't measure up to your standard...
You are consistently inconsistent. You judge the guys on the field against THE HYPE of the new recruits - but the newbies get a pass.

BTW - I agree that Alisa disappeared, largely, after a game and a half when defenses had film on him. And every player I have seen disappears relatively vs better defenses.

But how in the HECKCK do you know how Williams will do vs a good defense that has seen film.

And how do you know how he would do vs a BSU or U defense running behind an OL that was so TERRIBLE, SIMPLY TERRIBLE, that one got moved and two got dropped and coaches called them out for not being mean and nasty enough?

Just wondering why you can't wait until he proves himself.

He just might do it. Should be fun to watch and see.

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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:16 am


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2012-10-03T23:53:57-06:00 2012-10-03T23:53:57-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145266#p145266 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>

Should be fun and exciting to watch for the misguided fools who show up.
:). Especially fun for the arrogant ones that have the audacity to suggest that fans should support their team - even when the losers are 4 points short of being undefeated.

:)

The Bibster will be wearing Blue - should be easy to spot in that empty stadium :)

Hope that revamped OL shows up so that we do not get another injured QB.

BTW - DM - do not expect Hill, Lark, Nelson, or Munns to slide on those option plays - to avoid injury - that is not how they work.

And since you love conspiracy theories

How do you come up with Anae getting fired for interfering with Bronco's love feat with Riley.

But I am old - easily confused - but let me get this straight

According to BS Legends

Anae made Doman pick Nelson in 2010
Bronco made Doman pick Nelson in late 2011 and early 2012
And Bronco fired Anae for picking Melson - later realized his mistake - and then he made Doman pick Nelson - now I get it

And then Doman finally realized that if he ever wanted to be able to play the best guy - he needed to play a crappy OL until Nelson was killed - and then overhaul the OL just in time to make his guy look good and to keep him healthy.

I finally got it - he justified killing Nelson because after sitting out the 2nd half of the Weber State game - Nelson, by failing to remind Doman about his injury - for all practical purposes - hid the injury so he could play.

Or did Riley remind Doman but then made out with Bronco so Bronco would make Doman let him play. And since Nelson and Bronco are both idiots - they would never realize the inexperienced OL was the real problem.

Wait - I thought Doman was the idiot :). Wait - wasn't he calling the plays for Anae when Anae started to look better - but then amnesia and all and the pressure of being a Bishop - he forgot how to call plays - until last week vs almost the worst defense in D1.

I am old - this is hard to follow - or just plain silly

Or someone, who has admitted so in the past, just likes to stir the pot.

Wait - I do get it. The inexperienced OL guys were still ticked that Heaps left and had vowed to him that they would never block for Nelson.

Passive Agressive behavior - undermines the best.

:)

And put an asterisk by Nelson - he will always be remembered as the QB in the way.

I still think the USU game will be fun to watch - if for no other reason - to see what these evil, scheming, stubborn, and stupid people will come up with next.

:)
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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:53 pm


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2012-10-03T23:44:05-06:00 2012-10-03T23:44:05-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145264#p145264 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
runs better than Alisa.
ridiculous comment. Why do you feel the need to dog on so many players. Hard to live up to your standard I guess.

Isn't this the same Alisa that we all wanted to proclaim the second coming of Unga last year?

Not to take anything away from Williams. The guy has "it". I just don't know why everyone is suddenly hating on Alisa. He would have put up 100+ vs Hawaii most likely with the retooled O-line.
He does run better than Alisa. Not dogging. It is the truth.

You all proclaimed him to be the next Unga. I was the one saying that he disappeared against good teams. Which he did.

Williams is legit. Alisa is less legit. Pointing out facts isn't dogging.

Why do you always have to dog on people that make observances? I guess I just can't measure up to your standard...

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2012-10-03T22:50:14-06:00 2012-10-03T22:50:14-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145263#p145263 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]> Statistics: Posted by Cougs_Rule — Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:50 pm


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2012-10-03T18:46:59-06:00 2012-10-03T18:46:59-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145252#p145252 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]>
runs better than Alisa.
ridiculous comment. Why do you feel the need to dog on so many players. Hard to live up to your standard I guess.

Isn't this the same Alisa that we all wanted to proclaim the second coming of Unga last year?

Not to take anything away from Williams. The guy has "it". I just don't know why everyone is suddenly hating on Alisa. He would have put up 100+ vs Hawaii most likely with the retooled O-line.

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2012-10-03T07:40:23-06:00 2012-10-03T07:40:23-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=145197#p145197 <![CDATA[Re: Jamal Williams...]]> Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:40 am


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